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A Kashmiri Pandit And A Kashmiri Muslim Debate On Article 370


The Government issued a letter asking all
the pilgrims and tourists to evacuate Kashmir, why?
Because you want to keep the Kashmiris back there for the lockdown. 
You just want to shut them down. They can’t even voice their opinions. 
You could have kept the pilgrims there and done the same. 
Why did you ask all the pilgrims and tourists to leave?
It’s all about the Kashmiri land and not the Kashmiri people.
You say that Kashmir is an integral part of India but you haven’t done anything to prove
that. Kashmir is an integral part of India and not
the Kashmiris. Right now, every Kashmiri is disheartened
and disappointed. No. No.
These are all mere words. One minute, listen to me.
Should I call my uncle, who’s also a Kashmiri Pandit? I know that side of the story. But I also know that when we fled Kashmir, did any minister or
Hurriyat member ask us to stay or say “we are here for you”?
It was a political gimmick. That is the whole point.
So, if they also played a political game, why are you feeling bad? Uncle, one second, don’t you think you’re saying things out of revenge? Something wrong happened to you, I acknowledge that. But now, you will let the same happen to others? No, nothing wrong is happening.
So, you are saying nothing wrong happened with you? What happened with us was very wrong. At 3 in the morning, I fled with my family
and children, hiding in the back of a truck. I agree with you.
These sweet words can’t alter anything now. According to me, it is just your revenge that
is saying all of this. You think if something bad happened to you,
it should happen to others as well. No, not at all.
What is it then? When you raise your finger against the army…
What is the army supposed to do? A soldier is given the orders to serve at
a post and there he is pelted with stones. Have you tried to understand its reasons? I just very recently spent two months in Kashmir
and I go there every year. You go there every year, right?
Yes, every year. How did the people treat you there? No. Tell me now. Listen…
Slow down… One minute…
Kashmiri people are very good. My Kashmiri Muslim friends pick me directly
from the airport. We have our own house there, but first, we
go to their house. I stay and eat at their house. 
But when it comes to the Army or about India, their minds change.
That’s what I am saying. There’s a reason behind this.
What could the reason be? Do you know about the Kunan Poshpora incident? My house is a mere 5 km from there. When you are aware of it, then?
These are the reasons, sir. I am not saying that you are wrong.
What happened to you was totally wrong. I lost my youth in this struggle.
I agree. I know Kashmiri Pandits who are like family. 
Even I have family friends back in the valley. The family that I stay with when I go back
to Kashmir made a new house and they saved a separate room for just me. 
Now you see! This is what I was talking about. But, hold on. 
When it comes to India their stance is clear. They hate India. 
Why? Haven’t you asked?
They all have been brainwashed by the Hurriyat. They have brainwashed all of Kashmir?
Yes, of course. What about the people who are living outside,
in India, Canada? One minute, I have to say something. Something wrong happened to you,
we acknowledge that. But don’t you feel it is your revenge that justifies if it happened to you, it’s okay
that it happens to others too. No, nothing wrong is happening.
Second thing, it’s possible to brainwash one or two Kashmiris, but how is it possible to
brainwash the entire valley? If the Indian government cared about Kashmiris,
then why did this lockdown happen around Eid. We haven’t spoken to our families in four
days. Why? Isn’t this a basic human right? If this was happening in a different country,
they would have been locked up by now. If you are talking about Eid, then think about
the Amarnath yatra, which was also postponed. This happened because the Centre was concerned
about the safety in the valley. Tourists have always been safe in Kashmir.
Were the Kashmiris safe in the 90’s? What are you talking about?
Who makes the climb with the tourists on their horses? They are Kashmiris. They just do it for their money. 
Where was the bus driver from, who was shot dead whilst protecting the tourists from the
terrorists? He was a Kashmiri. 
He was not from the army. And it is the duty of every country’s army
to protect its citizens, not just of the Indian Army. But it is their duty to protect the citizens, not to lock them up. 
So, what do you want, brother? Sir, I don’t want anything. We were just talking.
We just want that we can talk to our families. You are right from your point of view, and
he is right from his. There is no solution to this.
You are absolutely right from your point of view. Even I am a Kashmiri. You are right, but if you see this situation
like an Indian, you’ll realize that nothing bad happened. 
I am standing with you, right? You are absolutely right from where you stand.
But if you understand his point of view, he is also correct. 
I fight with my relatives just because I love India. You love India, that is right. But the majority of Kashmiris hate India.
I’ll tell you why. My head was hung in shame. 
You are not saying anything wrong. One second, I’ll tell you why I felt humiliated. 
I felt humiliated when my friends from the US and UK asked me why my family was locked
down, why I haven’t spoken to them for five days. This was bound to happen. This happened in Punjab as well.

Otis Rodgers

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99 COMMENTS

  1. Rahul Tiwari Posted on August 13, 2019 at 3:42 pm

    Wish could have been there

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  2. atin janki Posted on August 13, 2019 at 4:37 pm

    Good to hear from Kashmiris arguing about this issue.

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  3. The MARtiANZz Posted on August 13, 2019 at 5:07 pm

    This is so unfair 😔 to split a state into two different Union territories. I think J&K should always be a single state and with full power like all others states across the country, and this was BJP's ultimate plan to implement there power over J&K as we know the union territories are controlled and administered directly by the Central Government which is BJP now and eventually they will ruin the entire region with violence and hatred among the people of J&K itself as they have always proved in the states where they govern. This is an era where Communalism really starts to project out among the people of India and the feeling of Nationalism got diminished from the minds of Indian as it has become 70+ years of Independence and this has been pretty much used as an advantage by BJP to come to power. I really doubt that if things are going constitutional now. I think many of us must have felt it.
    Now, this is an Era of fascism in our country. Believe it or not. It is happening. They are proving it each time by bringing such unconstitutional bills in the parliament and passing it even without a strong objection from opposition. The triple thalak, UAPA and finally the J&K bill are such examples. We as citizen of this country are made into puppets who just can't do anything but simply being controlled by the strings in their hands.

    #endofdemocracy #fascistindia #lastindependenceday

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  4. Adithya Pai Posted on August 13, 2019 at 5:08 pm

    Both sides are right in their own ways ..! But one statement I would like to add .. if tourists were not sent back and something happens to them after article 370 is taken ..who will be responsible? Prior to this many times communication had been snapped.. why making this big issue right now.?

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  5. studytimes education Posted on August 13, 2019 at 5:26 pm

    4 din dikkat h manage ho jayegi lekin jo hamesha k liye chale gye unke liye is bat ki thodi khushi hogi humane nature h …revenge kha se h ..humanity ki baten ab krna faltu h haq ki bat honi chahie …

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  6. Akshay Asok Posted on August 13, 2019 at 5:33 pm

    Jo Kashmiri Panditom ke saath hua tha.. woh Bharat mein kisi aur ke saath aaj tak nahi hua hai.. Over 5 Lakh Kashmiri Hindus, Sikhs were driven out of their own land! And they are still living outside Kashmir.
    If they wanted, it was easy to pick up weapons and avenge each and every oppression they have faced. But, they never did.
    So, Respect!!!

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  7. kumar chegudi Posted on August 13, 2019 at 5:38 pm

    There is nothing wrong in locking up people in order to maintain peace according to India constitution,
    India has done nothing wrong..

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  8. VIRAT DUBEY Posted on August 13, 2019 at 5:52 pm

    Dusro waale ka bhi face dhikhao……

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  9. Neel Doshi Posted on August 13, 2019 at 6:24 pm

    Just imagine what would happen if i) No lock down. 2) No Yatras/tourism got suspend 3) No Internet cut. All blood and flash would be on the road.

    Reply
  10. Pj Singh Posted on August 13, 2019 at 6:27 pm

    Only kashmiri muslims havd problem with 370 scrap,ask pandits sikhs budh people,people who settled kashmir were thrown out and they're talking about fundamental rights what about human rights motherfuckers,i have started hating kashmiri muslims,why muslims have always problems? They had problem they asked for Pakistan,then Bangladesh noe kashmir, lust for land in Muslims is never ending. Bloody fuckers

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  11. dr s Posted on August 13, 2019 at 6:37 pm

    Shutup man he is not getting hiper …it's his emotion ….don't give reason ….aaj human right ke baat yaad aaye….waha

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  12. dr s Posted on August 13, 2019 at 6:45 pm

    Us ,Australia Ke logoun ko bolo nai hume azade chayen…hum killers hai…hum insanayat ke naam per daba hai…hum jis thali mai khaten hai use main ched kerten hai…hum apne government ko gali deten hai…hum Indian passport per travel kerten hai …study kerten hai…but phir b hum India ko gali deten …aur pakstain Ka saath deten hai…bolo unko apne reality …nai himat hai to jooth ka yhen drama mat kero…..
    Law of nature ….every action their is equal and opposite reaction …why so hue and cry….

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  13. Manish Erande Posted on August 13, 2019 at 6:49 pm

    JInta investment delhi kashmir mein karta hai utna agar bihar mein karte toh bihar JApan hota

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  14. Faiyaz Ali Khan Posted on August 13, 2019 at 7:07 pm

    I m Indian.. And I happy for the decision.. But Very Sad for Kashmiris… And Felt more Bad When Same 370 is in Other States in India.. But Government is more interested in Kashmir….. May God Maintain the Beauty Of Kashmir… And help People there

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  15. Malik Usman Posted on August 13, 2019 at 7:32 pm

    my request for indian youth. please raise your voice for kashmir please 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

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  16. Anshuman Bisoyi Posted on August 13, 2019 at 7:56 pm

    Indian banke dekho kuch galat nahi hua hai.

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  17. Ankita dwivedi Posted on August 13, 2019 at 9:32 pm

    They r shouting unnecessarily ….absolute absurd!
    Gov .always paid extra attentn to Kashmir …provides them with resources as much lower rates….did everything still when we go there they ask r u Indian? Y man? If kashmiri's so patriotic y they give spaces to terrorist to hide to live? Y thy keep shouting kashmiri's …y dnt thy consider themselves as indian's …y there is need of separate constitution and flag? When it comes to educatn ..Job etc they thoroughly enjoy their reservatn …nd travel across country with much reclaimed rights but when ppl like us visits there opposite happens ….y man ? Hmko baat nhi krne de rhe …family family family ..the whole discuss was fr that only …understand the pain of that old man who actually as suffered …if Kashmir would had been so patriotic they would have been no need of Indian army but yeah! All thanks to mititancy out there which is due to their support ….inki protectn k liye kitnon ne apni jaan ganwayi h nhi accha lgta Bhai apne soldiers ko aise veergati ko prapt hota dekh …aakhir kbtk….inko sbkuch chahiye gov. Se but in return they will not consider themselves as Indian toh Matlab Baki state k log toh ppgl h…aye bekr ki debate krne wale

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  18. Argha Kamal Ganguly Posted on August 13, 2019 at 10:34 pm

    Kashmiri people are using India like a toilet.

    Reply
  19. Piyushraj Sisodia Posted on August 13, 2019 at 10:58 pm

    Social media 😀 it will make people fight and then make money out of it. People will hate each other more and more just because some miss information or unnecessary information which is not in public interest is out on social media. Great work scoopwhoop like your version

    Reply
  20. Ankit Chauhan Posted on August 14, 2019 at 12:16 am

    Lawdo chilana hai jitna chillao…. Gand mein se nikal diya art 370 and 35a.

    Reply
  21. OCCUPIED KASHMIR SRI NAGAR. Posted on August 14, 2019 at 1:17 am

    We kashmiri pandit and kashmiri muslims both don't want to live with Lynchistan FACIS India, thx

    Reply
  22. Manas Kher Posted on August 14, 2019 at 2:19 am

    Is it a debate?? Why kashmiris are blurred, and this old respected man is not…

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  23. A TRAVELOGER Posted on August 14, 2019 at 2:20 am

    Hahaha red vale ki achi gaand jalri😂😂😂😂

    Reply
  24. CjANE VINZX Posted on August 14, 2019 at 2:53 am

    BJP is destroying everything

    Reply
  25. Digvijaysinh Darbar Posted on August 14, 2019 at 3:20 am

    Badala lena chahiye her kashmiri me gusse muslim ko kimat chukana hai abi to badala baki hai

    Reply
  26. Honey Posted on August 14, 2019 at 3:28 am

    BAAT to Sahi hai, government ne terrorists wala hi kaam Kiya hai…..

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  27. Prashanth Reddy Posted on August 14, 2019 at 3:30 am

    Answer to the Kashmiri guys in the video: Indian Govt ensured that the yatris were sent back home because it was concerned about their safety….when there’s a curfew, police/administration wants everyone to be in their homes. The home for local Kashmiris was in Kashmir! So why would the govt want them to be pulled out of their homes?? Where should the govt have kept you?? Common sense!!

    Think about it! If the lockdown was supposed to be done while the yatris were inside Kashmir, what would have been the reaction like?? Where should they have gone?? Where should they stay put for so long?? Do you always think from your side?? Just use your brain instead and of being overly emotional!

    As far as lockdown is concerned, it was for general and overall safety. Just because you act as an innocent person in front of the video cameras doesn’t mean that there aren’t any miscreants out there who would create havoc when govt of India was taking such a huge decision! If you truly believe in goodness, then you would have understood the government’s compulsion and welcomed the decision wholeheartedly! If things were to be as good and safe as you expected, why would we be in this situation??

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  28. ayush singh Posted on August 14, 2019 at 4:27 am

    why this fucking channel not showing the face of the girl and the guy but old man and rest of the folks. I request youtube to remove this video. In the end, they have instigated a debate among people and left after getting the content. This channel is serious shit.

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  29. Ashutosh Dixit Posted on August 14, 2019 at 4:47 am

    Mujhe bhi bohot problem hai ….but ye Mera desh hai …problem har jagah hai …har desh me …mere desh me achhai bhi hai aur burai bhi ….lekin iska Matlab ye nahin ki main apne desh k khilaaf baatein karoon ….army ko gaali Doon

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  30. Surendra Toliya Posted on August 14, 2019 at 5:29 am

    Why the hell he is poking and pointing finger towards uncle to prove his point. Uncle is totally calm and this guy can't even control his anger. Uncle is Right they suffered alot and it's not about revenge its for kashmiri pandit rights and for all kashmiri people living in Kashmir. Everyone knows article 370 never did gud for kashmir it always helped to create chaotic situation now govt has omnipotent power over kashmir and this is right thing happened so far.
    _AAP supporter(adding this so u know why) lol 😊👍

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  31. Surendra Toliya Posted on August 14, 2019 at 5:31 am

    At 1.54 red tee guy totally having fun btw debate 🤣

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  32. Voice of Reason Posted on August 14, 2019 at 5:38 am

    why did you ask yatris to come out ? – Bhosdike curfew mein kya ande deta wahan pe

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  33. Voice of Reason Posted on August 14, 2019 at 5:45 am

    kashmiri pandits being forced out was wrong , forget it don't seek revenge

    kunan pashpora happened in 1991- don't forget it that is why soldiers are stoned in 2019

    BC hypocricy ki bhi hadh hoti hai 😀

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  34. bharath0185 Posted on August 14, 2019 at 6:21 am

    It's easy to say that " jo bhi apke saath hua Bura hua " if that was prevented now they wouldn't face these things na coz karma is a bitch. Also if there were any problems in the state it will be addressed and people are so ignorant that it is for their own family safety that the communication is blocked . Even after witnessing the acts in Kashmir people of Kashmir are so ignorant.

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  35. Suman Sharma Posted on August 14, 2019 at 6:22 am

    Kashmiri pandit ~ Kashmiri bandits ….. Looting Govt. Money by creating emotional drama. Selfish and thankless people.

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  36. please dont waste water Posted on August 14, 2019 at 6:51 am

    Do you remember SARLA BHATT ? Nadimarg ? Wandham ? Sangrampore ? Oh yeah, let's just dismiss it as a 'bad' thing.

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  37. Krsn o Posted on August 14, 2019 at 6:53 am

    This boys n girl asked to blur their face bcoz they know they're wrong

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  38. YOONUS K Posted on August 14, 2019 at 7:08 am

    Dear ethicist and nonbeliever. If you want destroy whole Muslim from earth you have chance. No need nuclear weapons or military attacks . Prove Quran is wrong "produce the like of this Quran". You can use all supercomputers and aliens and scientists to produce and you have time until dooms days

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  39. Sam Ali Posted on August 14, 2019 at 7:21 am

    Uncle what's up university se he…. yese hi nautanki

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  40. Andaleeb Hejazi Posted on August 14, 2019 at 7:45 am

    Budhdha mdrchd is Umar me bhi madrchd k andar kitni nafrat h or revenge k chakkar me begunah musalmano ki maut pr poori majority madrchd khushiya manati h..unka bhi wqt ayega jungle ki aag sbko nigal leti h..lagegi aag to aayenge Ghar kayi zad me Yaha sirf hmara hi makan thodi h…kbtk aise jahil moot peene wale hidnu is deish me h tbtk is deish me shaanti nhi ane wali..or lakho begunah logo k maut k zimmedar yehi madrchd majority h…

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  41. one hand Posted on August 14, 2019 at 8:02 am

    Let's make india great again.
    Greatness comes only after blood shed I am ready to give my and take yours.

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  42. Raghav Singla Posted on August 14, 2019 at 8:16 am

    Abhi to bss lock down kiya h…abhi jinke dill pakistan k liye beat krte h unka hisaab dena baki hai…yeh kashmiri bhot sarey bht bade wale kutte h jo terrorists ko ghrme chhupate h or encourage bhi krte h…yeh aurat bda ro rhi h lock kr diya abe khud to delhi me ghoom rhi h…ja na kashmir me mri rehti itni hi chinta h to…old uncle ko mamu keh rha h uske saath ka dalla…tum sab ki gand me goliya lagegi…tumhare bhadke hue nawjawans ko koi reham nhi milegi chahe ro maro ya sur pito chahe hamla kro

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  43. Aditya Raj Posted on August 14, 2019 at 8:16 am

    If someone can do pulwama like revenge proudly , then what's wrong with the decision of Indian govt. regarding Kashmir. Even if kashmiri's take it as a revenge, it's far more polite than their ways.

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  44. Vipul Posted on August 14, 2019 at 8:19 am

    Isn't it funny how not all the faces are blurred.

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  45. Dhiraj Yallal Posted on August 14, 2019 at 8:20 am

    Why to blur?? Kale kaam krne wale hi muh Chupa lete hai

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  46. Mohit bhadula Posted on August 14, 2019 at 8:21 am

    Aise bhen k land hume na mile bus 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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  47. you can call me papa Posted on August 14, 2019 at 8:39 am

    Rss jindabad

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  48. Aayush Agarwal Posted on August 14, 2019 at 8:46 am

    Mai aapko btata hu sabko…I am studying in ALIGARH MUSLIM UNIVERSITY for past 10 years…ye itne makkar aur jhuthe hai ki agar ye kahe ki aapki pareshani mai samjhta/samjhti hu….inka propoganda aik dum clear hai…in dono mai se aik ne bhi us kashmiri pandit uncle ki baat suni bhi ya phir bus wo usse behes kar rahe the , uske saath jo hua wo janne ke bawajood…..ni na….to inse kitne behes karlo …ye tumhe terrorism ko justify kardenge at the end…kitni bhi behes karlo …aik hindu ki jaan jaaye musalman ke haatho to inhe farak ni padta balki ye aur kehte hai ki us hindu ki hi galti hogi bina kuch jaane bhi …aap puchke dekhlo apne kisi musalman dost se ki tum terrorists ko jo syria mai iraq mai aur tamam countries mai usse kya samajhte ho…tum yahi incident puchlo ki kashmiri pandito ke saath jo hua usse aap kya samjhte…turant ya to topic change karega… insaniyat ki baato pe aajyega…aur wese tum logo ka hi sir kha jaate hai aik koi muslaman hindu ke haath mara jaaye….lekin tum secularism mai dubey raho…inka agenda clear hai…mai aligarh muslim university mai rehke inki pura mindset aur harkate dekh chuka hu …lekin tum aise bewakuf bante rehna…kyuki in jese leftist agenda waale media channels "scoop woop " tumhe jo dikha rahe hai wo tum sahi maanoge

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  49. Abhishekh Pandey Posted on August 14, 2019 at 8:50 am

    ये जो लडकी बदले की बात कर रही है तो मै पूछना चाहता हूं कि यदि कोई इसका रेप कर दे बीच बाजार मे तो ये क्या करेगी? केस करेगी पुलिस बुलाएगी तो यदि आरोपी इससे कहे कि बदला क्यो ले रही है जो हो गया सो हो गया अब भुल जाव।तो ये क्या करेगी?

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  50. Sukanta Chatterjee Posted on August 14, 2019 at 9:22 am

    Kashmir take tourist on their horse back because the want to extort money… And given a chance they tend to loot you…

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  51. Vishnu Prasad Posted on August 14, 2019 at 9:31 am

    Okay why blurr girl and boys face and show uncles face

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  52. patilnitin7 Posted on August 14, 2019 at 9:34 am

    झगडा काश्मीरीयत का नही इस्लामीयत का है!

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  53. Shweta Posted on August 14, 2019 at 9:45 am

    Tameez nai hai bado se baat krne ki..maa baap se bhi aise hi batiyate hoge

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  54. vikas tandon Posted on August 14, 2019 at 9:46 am

    Unka face kyo blurr kiye ho be

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  55. vikas tandon Posted on August 14, 2019 at 9:49 am

    We support Indian government on article 370….Only terrorist is against Indian government.

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  56. Nishtha Pareek Posted on August 14, 2019 at 9:51 am

    People are good , political leaders are bad.. there only task is to exploit people based on various agendas. Whatever happened back then and whatever happened now has not benefited people.

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  57. rotto grill Posted on August 14, 2019 at 9:57 am

    Agar camera nhi hota to ye Kashmiris patthar se sar phod dete in uncle ka….

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  58. rotto grill Posted on August 14, 2019 at 10:01 am

    Agar koi Kashmir ki iss halat k liye jimmedaar hai to wo hai ye terrorists Kashmiris , desh ke baaki hisso me bhi mushalman hai wha koi problem nhi hai…..inki mentality sad chuki hai inhe na to job chahiye na hi achi lifestyle inhe bas jannat chahiye…mai delhi me rhta hu yha mere room k bagal me ek Kashmiri rhta hai bolta hai apna kya agar upsc nhi nikla to kya hua jayenge kashmir aur utha lenge gun…

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  59. saurabh Posted on August 14, 2019 at 10:16 am

    Mulle bhosdi walo ko duniya mein har jagah victim ka rona rona hota he.. Duniya Mein kaunsi jagah khush ho saalo. Jo jagah Khushal he bus unko barbaad karne pe tule ho. Flood aayenge to rote rote army ki boat mein baithoge. Aakhri mein uncle ne sahi Baat bola, if you see from India it is done right. Operation blue star bhi hua tha when the reason was justified. When will all the muslims take care of their own home before pointing other faiths all the time.

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  60. Barun Das Posted on August 14, 2019 at 10:18 am

    Zara inse pucho Aatankwadi dar dikhane ke liye school bomb se urwa kar kashmir bandh kar dete he.Aur yaha jab control manner me ak kaam ko karne ke liye kiya jai to galat kyu samajhte he. Bat un politicians ki, terrorist s ki he jo bina lock down ke full force me kaam kar sakte he,jiske liye control zarrori he kuch din ke liye.

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  61. Barun Das Posted on August 14, 2019 at 10:22 am

    Tourist safe nahi he yeh to sabko pata he nhi to itni security kisliye di jati he.Amarnath yatra attack, terrorist threats etc

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  62. alex7 s Posted on August 14, 2019 at 10:46 am

    how is it the same . you are not able to talk to your family for 3 days and u call this human rights violation, and the old man was not able to go back to his home for 30 years what do u call that ? Did u ever protest for his right to go back to his home . u have zero friends in us, uk or Australia after your so called 2nd generation Muslim started ramming cars in to innocent bystanders

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  63. Âmàáñ Sheikh Posted on August 14, 2019 at 10:51 am

    Army to अनपढ़ hoti hai 8vi or 10vi pass hote hai.. They don't have mind

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  64. ck kc Posted on August 14, 2019 at 11:14 am

    Saalo what abt women's n girls were raped during 90s ….where were these good Kashmiris then…where they were hiding….

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  65. Pramod N Posted on August 14, 2019 at 11:19 am

    fuk kashmiris… its all karma.. bitch🐏 🐏 🐏 🐏

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  66. Ishanee Chauhan Posted on August 14, 2019 at 12:07 pm

    How can these guys be so blind? Don't spread false info. I can debate them point by point. Here it goes
    1. They cannot compare the kashmiri pandit genocide with what's happening today. As the old man said he hid his kids and boarded a truck. There were many families who didn't know till months whether their relatives were alive or not. At that time these people who say we haven't talked with their families should feel ashamed. Their relatives are just being not given network otherwise they have food, electricity and every basic need taken care by government. I would like to ask these two ignorant people is it fair to compare raping of innocent women and killing children with just a network lockdown?
    2. They start complaining about democracy and all because they have a voice given by this government. Do you think someone heard those kashmiri pandits? No government no ngo no common people. If they lived decades without complaining and merged in India for betterment, why can't you as Indians give a few days to this nation? There are a very few countries left in this world where you can freely talk shit about government and politicians and still have freedom of speech. So respect that.
    3. Tourists have also been a target so don't say tourists were always safe.
    4. The Maharaja come to ask for military help from India that's why our army was there then and today because despite all the lives our jawans have given for your safety, you say things like this.
    4. They say their friends calling from abroad asking about lockdown. Be a true Indian and tell them the real situation rather than gaining sympathy. Tell them boldly we are with India and if for our better future few days we have to live in lockdown we can do that for our country why has been fighting for us since long.
    5. You say they want kashmir land not the people. I totally disagree. Every Indian knows Kashmir means beauty and welcoming gracious nature of the people living there. If India just wanted the land, the army could have wiped out the people long ago. It has all the powers.
    6. Not once are you guys questioned about letting militants you allow in this country. If you too are against it and i know some people are who gave lost their kids in fights then you should be with the army who is helping. you make your kashmir beautiful again.
    7. I request everyone not to be influenced by any media especially West media. They have and will always try to divide us so tell them to their faces that Jai Hind. Vande Mataram. Irrespective of your beliefs. Because remember this country that you call which is not democratic is the only country democratic enough where everyone can practice their faiths without fear.
    8. Restrictions were loosened on Eid so don't spread false news. There have been telephone lines made available for people to call their relatives outside kashmir. They have hospitals and PUBLIC HEALTH CENTRES open. I don't get why they are complaining. The Kashmiri Pandits lived in tents for days without good food, hospitals, without knowing their kids whereabouts they still didn't come to other parts of India and said shit about democracy. They became a part of us.
    9. Don't complain about sending yatris back to their homes. Do you want your relatives to be sent too. They government wanted everyone safe in their houses. Another reason is we don't know what would the insurgents do and in what extent so the government is taking a pro safety stand here. So that the people of Kashmir can be the number one priority. Can't you guys see that. Today although militants used you people to spread hate and terrorism in other parts of the country by radicalizing your youth, even though thousands of civilians and police and army men have died in India because of terrorist attacks, we as a nation stand with you. To give your next generation a militant free future. How do you not see that? Hard earned citizens true taxpayers money is going into all this. So stop complaining and be patient. We have never blamed the people of Kashmir for allowing militants because we know you are suffering too. For once think logically and not based on religion.
    I humbly request everyone to be patient and see what the government has planned for us and if any injustice is served we as citizens will stand up for you because that is what this great democratic country called India stands for. Say in unison without feeling ashamed
    Jai Hind. BHARAT MATA KI JAI. Vande Mataram

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  67. SAMBHU SHANKAR Jena Posted on August 14, 2019 at 12:15 pm

    Yeah we want you bloody sleeper cells to get out of India

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  68. garima bhardwaj Posted on August 14, 2019 at 12:36 pm

    agar aap log jammu and kashmir ko badalne ke liy itna sa adjust nahi kr skty..to AP sach m development k liy kuch nhi kr skty.. kya kya maangogy sarkaar se?

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  69. Salman Khan Posted on August 14, 2019 at 12:49 pm

    missing arnab chutiya in this debate

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  70. Dibyajyoti Rahang Posted on August 14, 2019 at 12:58 pm

    Why they need to blur! Ab kya hua bate to bhut kus kr rahe tha

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  71. Shrayansh Singh Posted on August 14, 2019 at 12:59 pm

    Hiding the face of one speaker and not hiding the face of the other speaker. May I ask why?

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  72. Heisenberg Posted on August 14, 2019 at 12:59 pm

    Lage raho propoganda chalane me. Modi ko Jo karna tha vo Kar diya.🤣🤣🤣

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  73. udit sharma Posted on August 14, 2019 at 1:05 pm

    Revenge toh Lena pade ga

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  74. Harshit Baboo Posted on August 14, 2019 at 1:28 pm

    #Part1 From Ashok Kumar Pandey's wall- You write 'A' from Kashmir, immediately someone will come with 'P'. As if everything is happening in Kashmir, it can be justified in the name of all the Pandits. One question – where were you when the Pandits were evacuated from the valley! Now I often turn around and ask, Brother, where was I in Deoria? By the way, when this happened, the government was with VP Singh, BJP also had support and sent him and Jagmohan Saheb at the behest of him. But it is necessary to talk a little about it. What were the circumstances of 1989? True or false but the truth is that the atmosphere of freedom was created in the entire valley. There was a lot behind this movement led by JKLF. Al Fateh also started the movement in the sixties but it had no special effect. The upsurge was big in the 1990s movement. In this madness, which he found pro-India, he was killed. Doordarshan director Lasa Kaul was killed because Meerwaiz, the religious leader of the Muslims, was killed when Doordarshan was called the Bhompu of India because he was not supporting terrorism. Nilkanth Ganju, who sentenced Maqbool Butt to death, was killed, and 84-year-old Maulana Madudi, who verified the hair of Hazrat Saheb, was also killed. BJP's Teeka Lal Tipalu was killed while Mohammad Yusuf Halwai of National Conference was also killed. People of Kashmiri Pandit IB were killed while Inspector Ali Mohammad Vatali was also killed. Pushkar Nath Handu, director in the information department, was killed and Prof. Mushirul Haque, vice-chancellor of Kashmir University, was also killed. Hedyanath Vanchu, who was opposing the migration of Pandits, was killed, former MLA Mir Mustafa and later Abdul Gani Lone were also killed. The female nurse Sarla Devi, who was accused of murder and rape, was also accused of being an informer. So it was a period of madness. But were all the Muslims against the pundits? Were all the murderers? Think if 96 percent of the Muslims had actually turned against the 4 percent pundits, would anyone have survived? Apparently many people were also killed in this madness."

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  75. Harshit Baboo Posted on August 14, 2019 at 1:28 pm

    #Part2 From Ashok Kumar Pandey's wall- People like Bitta Karate drowned in communal hatred and killed innocents. Why did the migration happen? It is evident from these incidents and the fear and insecurity created in that environment. Even if Jagmohan was not responsible for this, it is undisputed that he did not try to stop it. Despite this, no one thought that they would not return. Everyone felt that if the atmosphere is calm in a few days, then they will return. If something like revenge happens, Kashmiri Muslims have not paid less. There are thousands of unnamed tombs. At the same time fifty thousand Muslims were banished from Kashmir. There is an entire organization of families whose members did not return after arrest. Thousands of people were killed. Not all of them will be guilty. The movement was also shattered by 1999–2000. Peace could not be sustained despite that. The Pandits who had escaped from those situations got the sympathy of the country, and even if the Muslims came out, they were seen by the eyes of the dead, killed and beaten. Where do they go! There are still 800 families of pundits there. Many have been interviewed from Srinagar to the villages. There are many things, how can I say everything here? Will be in the book soon. Listen to an anecdote. A Pandit family from South Kashmir told that the leader of a national conference of the neighboring village said that you will not go anywhere till I am. He was killed by terrorists the same day. The next night all the Pandits left. He remained with his ailing uncle. The exodus was a tragedy. The second tragedy is not the answer to tragedy. You complete your agenda, but until Kashmir calms down, the Pandits will not return. Even after that, I have the strength They have settled in other cities. Anyway – one last thing – people ask why Pandits did not become terrorists! Bhai, millions of Muslims went to Pakistan in 1947, they did not become terrorists. Millions of Hindus came to India, they also did not become terrorists. Gujarat happened. Muslims did not become terrorists. The gun rises against the suppression of power. The Pandits did not found suppression of power,but support! Then why would they become terrorists and kill whom! And yes there is a large proportion of people among them who know and understand reality. They do not want revenge on Muslims, they want peace in Kashmir.

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  76. rinku yadav Posted on August 14, 2019 at 1:30 pm

    Madarchod chakko.. Randi ke baccho.. suar ki alwad.. scoop wale saare Randi ki alwad h.. ab suno madarchodo woh bichara modi ne jaise taise hatya h 370 ab bhi tumhari maa maar rhi h usse Mai.. madarchodo zehar kha lo ab TM log

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  77. rinku yadav Posted on August 14, 2019 at 1:31 pm

    Ghanta krti ho agree saalo TM log Pakistan ka support krte ho kutto tumha n scoop walo ko donno ko Syria shift KR Dena chaiye

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  78. pritish panda Posted on August 14, 2019 at 1:37 pm

    Agar revenge lena hota… Then they should have shot you… No one is shooting you…
    1990 Kashmiri pandits were shot
    Since 90 till today army personnel are shot down….
    So we're Kashmiri millitants…
    If we look at this perspective we do not see the removal of 370 as revenge… We are assimilating Kashmiri … So that they could prosper and develop…
    I believe truly that the removal of article 370.. Is being propagated as revenge on Kashmiri… By pdp, hurriyat..
    Is this revenge think again?? .
    Think what happens to the money sent by the center… Where is the development…. Kashmiri have been thoroughly brain washed to hate India 🇮🇳… And divert their attention away from political and administrative corruption… …
    Pattharbaazi — no development.
    Ak 47 — afspa..
    Cross border terrorism — surgical strike..
    We are tired enough… We are tired of loosing friends and family in uri, pathankot, ….
    Know what we have always been on war.. And we will be on war… No matter what ❓ .
    Kashmir is always been in boiling state.. There is no point in giving up…. We are not afraid because we are still on war… Those thinking that removal of 370 will lead to destabilization of peace.. I would say think again

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  79. Nikhil Sukuru Posted on August 14, 2019 at 1:47 pm

    Why are the faces blurred ?

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  80. Pankaj Vatsa Posted on August 14, 2019 at 1:47 pm

    370 is totally against the basic feature of indian constitution particularly it creates two classes of indians , one who belong to kashmir and other who belong to the rest part of India. A disease which has been nurtured for 70 years cannot completely be cured in 7 days. But yes MODI HAI TO MUMKIN HAI,

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  81. Mahesh Jaybhaye Posted on August 14, 2019 at 2:03 pm

    One thing is confirm that Modi & his team Have found right timing to Scrapping Article 370.
    Because At Economic front the Present Govt is totally fail & to deviate the People's attention to Another issue is need of their politics to maintain PM image as Populist leader ..As we all see the mainstream media only doing Kashmir issue with Govt propaganda bias. Everyone Silent on health of Indian Economic slowdown..??

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  82. India Boosted Posted on August 14, 2019 at 2:09 pm

    The fact that they had to pixelate the faces of those two youngsters was enough to show that this country is not the same anymore.

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  83. govind b Posted on August 14, 2019 at 2:12 pm

    I have no problem with those who oppose removal of article 370 but they should tell me what's good article 370 had done in kashmir ? and what's their plan in solving kashmir issue? as simple as that .
    Moreover people from different states work's and live in other states but not kashmir article 370 alieanated kashmir from rest of India and pakistan got beniffited let other people's to come and live there kashmiris say they're not communal

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  84. Revati Ahuja Posted on August 14, 2019 at 2:28 pm

    Uncle ka bhi face cover kardete yaar.

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  85. Atul Joshi Posted on August 14, 2019 at 2:38 pm

    I want to understand the points of the blurred guy and the incidents he was indicating to

    If Anybody can help?

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  86. Anmol Tripathi Posted on August 14, 2019 at 2:43 pm

    If at all you wanted to conceal the identity, you could have blurred the faces of both the fellows…

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  87. JYOTI PRAKASH RAY Posted on August 14, 2019 at 2:45 pm

    Tourists and yatris have been asked to quit because Govt doesn't believe in their safety with the current situation in Kasmir. Wait and see time will change the things.

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  88. A B Posted on August 14, 2019 at 2:49 pm

    Time for Swacch Kashmir. Make India Muslim Free. Uncle aap chinta mat karo. Aapka badla liya jaaayega. Insaaf hoga. Jarur hoga. Insha Allah. Amin.

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  89. Raj soni Posted on August 14, 2019 at 2:54 pm

    Ga×d fati to face blur karne ka request krne lge…. Jhut ko hamesha nakab ki jarurat pdti h… 😡..hamare sainik se jyada kashmiri civilian apni life khote h… Ha shayad kyi sare in terrorist ka sath bhi dete h…

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  90. GN Deka Posted on August 14, 2019 at 3:00 pm

    One doesn't realize the value of freedom until its gone..

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  91. Anupam Dutta Posted on August 14, 2019 at 3:01 pm

    Ek week burha admi vs 2 young people…is it proper equality?

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  92. Arif Nawab Posted on August 14, 2019 at 3:11 pm

    Tum logo nai mamu bol kai unki Bhen betiyo ki ijjat luti ye kaha ka Human Rights hai

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  93. samaresh chandra Posted on August 14, 2019 at 3:18 pm

    No comment.

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  94. kundan singh Posted on August 14, 2019 at 3:20 pm

    The lady and that guy was so talkative but remember that what ever you saying you can only say in indian. For e.g if you are citizen of Pakistan if you speak against them or country like China they will fuck you so harder that we can't say it against. Kashmiri will never understand the effort that Indian army putting to help them.

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  95. Ray sliver stone Posted on August 14, 2019 at 3:45 pm

    Jab khud ki gand pe laat padti hai tab sabko rona ata hai ,, kasmiri muslim ko bus apna rona hai , jo hindo k sath hua uska koi baat nai karta , dogle sale

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  96. Fidaa Meer Posted on August 14, 2019 at 3:48 pm

    Is Pandit ko ghar mein kaun Jagah deta hai please dekho iska behav Hamari behan ko baat karne nahi deta hai Hamare bhai ko

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  97. Rani bhati Posted on August 14, 2019 at 3:49 pm

    Seriously! The guy in red need to learn how to behave with someone who is twice of their age. He should have debated in same way the old man was doing rather then shouting and acting agressively. If someone shouted in the same way he did with anyone he knows then.

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  98. trilok bharti Posted on August 14, 2019 at 4:13 pm

    So called Kashmiri isolated youth in blur and exiled Kashmiri pandit is seen clear.

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  99. shubham singh Posted on August 14, 2019 at 4:13 pm

    Why are you hiding motherfuckers

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