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A Secular Jew Comes To Faith In Jesus Christ

[MUSIC PLAYING] Well if you love to read a nail
biting, cliff-hanging thriller, chances are you know the
novels of Andrew Klavan. If not, you may have seen one
of the movies based on them. Take a look. Andrew Klavan is a bestselling
author of tough-guy thrillers. Some of his novels
were made into movies such as “True Crime”
filmed by Clint Eastwood and “Don’t Say a Word”
with Michael Douglas. Despite their
grittiness, his novels have always contained a
search for truth, something that Andrew has done throughout
his entire adult life. In his memoir, “The
Great Good Thing”, Andrew shares how his
lifelong search for answers led him to a place
he never expected. Please welcome to The
700 Club, Andrew Klavan. It’s great to have you here. Thank you for having me. It’s great to be here. Thanks. “The Great Good Thing”. Your book is subtitled,
A Secular Jew Comes to Faith in Christ. Talk a little bit
about your childhood because it had
strong impact on you. I guess it does for all of us. But in your scenario,
your family was Jewish, but not practicing. Well we were
practicing in the sense that it was very
important to my father to train us up in the
traditions, and the rights, and all this. And so we went to Hebrew school. We went to temple on
holy days and all this. But underneath this, my
parents didn’t believe in God. My mother was one of
the– to the day she died, she was really one
of the most convicted atheists I have ever met. Really? And, yeah, my father would
hedge his bets, you know. He was the kind
of guy who didn’t want to take any chances. But it really became clear to
me that all these things that I was being trained
in, and Judaism is a very beautiful religion
with a wonderful tradition, but if you take God out of
it, it becomes an empty room. It becomes a cathedral that’s
built pointing at nothing. And so that began to bother me. I was always a kid who
wanted things to make sense and it didn’t make
any sense to me to pray to a God
who wasn’t there. And it bothered
you at an early age. I mean you were Bar
Mitzvahed at 13. And here you are not
really having been taught to relate to God in any way. By 14, were you
pretty sure yourself that there wasn’t a God
or where were you at? Yeah. Pretty much. I mean, I was standing up there. It was very difficult for me to
stand in front of an audience and say these words that I knew,
in my heart, I didn’t believe. And in those days,
in that neighborhood, when you were Bar
Mitzvahed, people gave you a lot of wonderful
jewelry and savings bonds. So I had this big leather
box of filled with thousands of dollars worth of gifts and
I was thrilled, of course, you know at 13. Sure. But over the months
that followed, I began to feel that it was
ill-gotten gains, that I had gotten it by telling a lie. And one night I took the
box and I crept outside, when everyone was asleep, and
I pushed it into the garbage and let them take it away. Really? Wow. Because I wanted to be free
of the sense that I had lied, that something was off
between me and my integrity. You know, that quest
for truth in you was almost built into you from
the time you were very, very young and eventually, because of
the emptiness of all the things you’re talking about, it led
to a clinical depression. And you, I mean, you share
how you found yourself in the darkest
night of your life. Share that. It was really quite bad. I mean, here I was, I had
a wife that I loved so much and a daughter at that
point, later I’d have a son, but I had a daughter, and I
remember sitting in the room thinking, I can’t live anymore. I don’t know how to live. And I was sitting in the dark. I was smoking. And I was drinking. I was listening to
a baseball game that was on in the
background, and there was this Christian ballplayer
whom I loved, Gary Carter, and I remember thinking,
I don’t know how to live. And just as I was
thinking this, Carter was interviewed on
the radio about how he could run in so
much pain and he just said, very simply,
he said sometimes you’ve got to play in pain. And the minute I heard that,
I thought, I can do that. I can do that. I’m in terrible depression. I’m in terrible pain,
but I can keep playing. And I did and things
turned around. So Andrew, how did
you go from that place of being almost on the verge
of being willing to let go of life to finding Christ
because it wasn’t a Damascus road experience for you? No. No. You know, well, first of
all, I had to get therapy to become a happier person. I so admired you
for doing that. As I read that, I thought, yes,
it’s a good thing to do that. It is. And I was so stubborn
that I couldn’t turn to God when I needed help. I needed to turn
to God and I was afraid it would be
a crutch, you know, because I wanted to be honest. But after I got healthy,
and after my mind was right, it became clear to me that all
the philosophies that didn’t include God didn’t make sense. And so I accepted, not Christ,
but God and started to pray, and that transformed my life. And it took about five years of
prayer that changed everything. And then one day,
when I realized what had happened to me, I was
driving in the hills over Santa Barbara, and I said to God, you
know, you’ve changed my life. What can I do for you
because I’m nobody? You know, you’re
God and I’m nobody. And almost as if it were spoken
into my ear, I heard God say, now you should be baptized. And I said out loud, baptized? You’ve got to be kidding me. Because here I was– But I’m Jewish. I’m Jewish. Michel I really had no religion
whatsoever, just this faith in God, which had then
become very clear to me. And so that began a
process where I thought, how did that happen and where
did that voice come from? Was it a real voice
or was it a delusion? I had to really question
myself about it. Very difficult. So how did you
get to the baptism? And how did– because
with family, with friends, with the business you were in. I mean, that was a
pretty public statement. It was tough. I mean, I knew it would, and
it did, hurt me in Hollywood. I was writing screenplays
and selling them continually and there’s a lot of
hostility to God in Hollywood. I knew it would estrange me
from some friends and it did. And I was fearful. You know, my father and
I never really got along, but we had made a separate
peace and he had once said to me that if I ever
converted, he would disown me. And I thought, here
I am, going to do this thing that’s
going to bring pain and suffering into my house. And I thought, I’m going
to have to tell him because I’m a public man. He’s going to see it somewhere. And he came to
visit and, as I was wrestling with how
to break it to him, he said, I’ve got to go home. I’m suffering from
double vision. And it turned out that
he had a brain tumor. It was his final illness. And so I realized I couldn’t
break his heart in the last six months of his life. And it was a very
weird, double life I started living because I would
go to New York to visit him, and then I would
leave his apartment and go visit my friend,
this Episcopal priest who was preparing me for baptism. And it came to a
head on what was both Holy week and Passover,
when my father passed away, and then very shortly
afterwards, I was baptized. You know, your book is
just such a great picture of your journey. You’re very candid about things. What do you want people to
take away from “The Great Good Thing” when they read it? I think the most important
thing to me is I think so many of us, it’s not
just Jewish people, it’s so many of us live
in this secular world where atheism is
the default setting. And we’re told that, if you’re
smart, you don’t believe. And scientists come out
and say there’s no God. I proved it in my science
and all this stuff. They’re wrong. It’s not true. And I wanted to show you how a
very logical person, a person dedicated to truth,
could come through that, and come out of that, and find
the real truth and the truth that would make you happy
without leaving behind reality and just grasping
the real reality. The full reality of life. And I hope that it works
like that for some people. It’s a wonderful story. Thank you so much for
sharing it with us today. It’s fascinating. And there is much more to it
than we’ve had time to cover. You can read it all
in his new memoir. It’s called “The
Great Good Thing”. It’s available wherever
books are sold. Plus you can watch a
web-exclusive interview with Andrew on
our Facebook page. To see that, log onto
Facebook.com/700Club. Andrew, great to have you here. Thank you, too.

Otis Rodgers



  1. BearBottomDipper Posted on September 20, 2016 at 4:19 pm

    god has crazy ways of sending me to stuff I need to see its amazing I was watching random videos an ended up on this

  2. Dragon-Soul_912 Posted on September 21, 2016 at 3:21 am

    These guys are cool.

  3. GracieGirl7 Posted on September 25, 2016 at 5:13 am

    so often I come across 'learned' people who insist on sending them selves to hell because of pride. 😞

  4. Jeroen Posted on May 24, 2017 at 10:25 pm

    I heard they had buttsex after the interview.

  5. Steven Dunn Posted on December 21, 2017 at 11:31 am

    This man while he as a Jew he offers a good story of how he believes in God, but Christ is not in it. There is one way to God and one Truth and that is Christ. Jews are not exempt from the gospel, Christ is their King and Saviour, he is the only way.

  6. Tim Goodwin Posted on December 22, 2017 at 11:21 am

    How did I only find out about Klavan becoming Christian just now? I used to listen to him all the time years ago, back when I wasn’t a believer but was searching seems like he was to at that point in his life. Now here I am today, and we are both Christian! Wow 😮

  7. Jan Alexander Posted on January 18, 2018 at 4:13 pm

    He never once mentioned coming to believe in Jesus “Yeshua” messiah, just “baptism”! I found that to be unsettling, and caused me to wonder if he really understands the gospel.

  8. Xftbllplyr Posted on June 5, 2018 at 7:28 pm

    Klavan is going to hell until he drops Judaism

  9. Ari G Posted on June 12, 2018 at 10:58 pm

    The Ideology of Christianity is that Jesus is Lord and savior for all, and those that do not accept him are eternally damned. However Yeshu’ah aka Jesus whom could not even save himself as he was being crucified by the Romans (Matthew 27:46) “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” is the Jewish Massiah, and God in human form!?? We see in the Tanakh (Which is what Christianity and Islam are founded off of), which teaches that all of the following Criteria must be fulfilled before any person can be acknowledged as the Messiah: The Main one’s; A) The Messiah must be a member of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 45:10), and direct descendant of King David and King Solomon (2 Samuel 7:12-14). The Christian Bible claims he did not have a “birth-father” (Mathew 1:18-20). C) The temple in Jerusalem will be rebuilt (Isaiah 2:2-3, 56;6-7, 60:7; Ezekiel 37: 26-27) Although Jesus claimed to be the Messiah, he died without fulfilling the Biblical criteria that define the Messiah. The essential concept of the Messiah is of a wise and righteous king who will reign over a restored Jewish homeland and bring about a utopian world of universal peace (wars have increased in the world since the advent of Christianity) and universal knowledge of G-d. (Isaiah 11:1-9; Jeremiah 33:14-16; Ezekiel 34:23-30, 37:24-28; Micah 4:1-4; Zechariah 8:23; Psalm 86:9 and more.) In light of Jesus' failure to fulfill these and numerous other prophecies, early Christianity proposed that Jesus would return in the future and bring about a redeemed world. Aside from the fact that this claim could be made for any failed Messiah, this concept simply does not appear anywhere in the Jewish Bible which was presented in front of Millions of witnesses as opposed to the “New Testament” (which in itself already raises suspicion, why would God give the Torah in front of millions and then give a “new testament” behind closed doors). The Jewish belief in G-d as absolutely one and non-corporeal (Deuteronomy 4:12,15,35; 6:4; Isaiah 43:10-11, 45:5-6, 46:9) makes it impossible to accept the Christian belief

  10. Jay Moss Posted on June 30, 2018 at 9:50 pm

    I cried watching this

  11. Nicole Hilson Posted on August 19, 2018 at 12:02 pm

    I’m so lucky to have had a foundation of the truth in Jesus Christ. Although I wasn’t born again until 2 years ago. Jesus Is LORD ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  12. Dwayne Thompson Posted on September 4, 2018 at 4:03 am

    I'm a bit judgmental, you should have said something Klavan. Abraham took his son Issac with full faith and I bet your dad would have done the same in his last days. That is a BIG part of those laws, that we choose not to forsake our children. Peterson inquires about this idea as well in his conversations with Harris at Pangburn events.

  13. Rebecca zou Posted on September 14, 2018 at 4:37 pm

    As always a jew who had absolutely zero knowledge of judaism became a christian…
    i would have been impressed if a talmidei jew converted to christian…
    But that would never happen…
    when a christian convert to judaism he / she had immense knowledge of christianity and these knowledge is infect the source of his/ her conversion.
    To this so call jew you cannot ask the question… Why do you leave judaism? he would answer "i don't know". because he really don't know.
    Whereas a person who converted from christianity to judaism would enumerate logical reasons to the same question about christianity

  14. pooperscoop54321 Posted on September 20, 2018 at 2:34 pm

    I respect his choice, but I think he should have told his dad before he died for the slim chance that he could have been saved.

  15. TRUE GOSPEL Posted on October 4, 2018 at 4:57 am

    ישראל תמשיך לסבול כל עוד היא מכחישה כי אדון ישוע המשיח הוא המשיח.

  16. Mi Duneyev Posted on October 22, 2018 at 2:02 am

    Andrew has a great voice

  17. Steve Parks Posted on October 23, 2018 at 1:59 pm

    Yayyy praise the Lord 👍

  18. Ninurta Thrice Majestic Posted on November 14, 2018 at 12:56 pm

    You denied Jesus to your father.

  19. CameronCanFLY Posted on December 1, 2018 at 11:10 pm

    "such a wonderful story" Yea letting ur dad die and go to hell because you didnt wanna break his heart before his death is such a wonderful tale hahaha

  20. Isreal TV Posted on December 4, 2018 at 7:59 am

    Jesus Christ is the masieh he is heavenly blessing of isreal so aour Jewish peoples must read Bible new testament and old testament deeply so than thay know that Jesus Christ is risen from the grave and now he is on the heaven he is son of David and Abraham and izhaq and God he is the only way to go for heaven he is most high spiritual power he is not in the grave he is not died he is risen and now he is on the most high heaven he is helper us now he claimed that I am the way and the truth no one can come on the heaven without me so Jesus Christ is blessing of isreal

  21. Lisa Murad Posted on December 6, 2018 at 10:45 pm

    Isaiah 53. Your rabbis don’t teach it on purpose.

  22. NCG Posted on December 27, 2018 at 10:29 pm

    Moses was the one who pretty much created the Hebrew religion, however he was indicatively pointing to Jesus from the beginning that he would come.

    (Found this on the internet, not my findings or words)

    Jesus is, indeed, the Passover Lamb, as those who put their faith in His death and the blood He shed are rescued from the judgment that is to come. (John 3:16-18)

    Like the manna in the desert, Jesus is the Bread from Heaven (John 6:51) that satisfies our spiritual hunger and gives us life.

    Like the water that sprung from the rock, Jesus is the living water (John 7:37) that satisfies our spiritual thirst.

    Like the snake in the desert that was lifted up that those who were bitten by deadly snakes could look upon and be saved, Jesus was lifted up so that we who have been bitten by Satan in our sin can look upon Jesus and be saved from spiritual death. (John 3:14-15)

    Like the rock that was struck the first time, but should never be struck again, Jesus suffered once for all. (1 Peter 3:18)

    Jesus is the offspring of the woman spoken of in Genesis 3 that would crush the head of Satan (Genesis 3:15)

    Jesus is the fulfillment of the life of Joseph, which foreshadows Him being the beloved Son, being envied by His own, begin rejected by His own, cast down into the pit, resurrected, sent to a distant country where He became lord of all, and who then provided salvation for His own.

    Jesus is the Lion of the tribe of Judah: cf. Genesis 49:8ff as interpreted by Revelation 5:5

    Moses also said that God would raise up "a prophet like me" (Deuteronomy 18:15), and this is probably the clearest reference to the coming Messiah.

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  24. D G Posted on January 6, 2019 at 6:28 am

    Why this obsession with trying to take advantage of members of our people unfortunate enough to have not received a Jewish education and background? I don't suggest you change your faith because it's 'wrong.' If it works for you, it's 'right.' The world doesn't revolve around your religious beliefs nor does it revolve around mine either.
    There is intolerance inherent in missionaries trying to convert members of the people whose legacy is the earliest monotheism upon which the missionaries' own religion is based.

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  28. ozskipper Posted on February 15, 2019 at 11:25 am

    Jesus wasnt a christian.. think about that.

  29. Foppish Dandy Posted on February 21, 2019 at 1:22 am

    Only a Jew would sell a book about how he became a Christian…

  30. Yoni Frias Toribio Posted on February 28, 2019 at 4:03 am

    I am loss; I dont think he actually learned Judaism. How he converted and explained to himself that was ok for jesus be the son of God when the prophecies did not happened yet. Btw, I am not jews neither Christian, I just study humans stuff.

  31. Un_Amor_Perfecto Posted on March 3, 2019 at 2:07 am

    This guy got some weird energy.

  32. Steve Inna Posted on March 3, 2019 at 2:46 pm

    Free Palistine. Innocent people forced under oppression to live like Zionists or aparthied. Zionism is not Judaism zionism is man made . We are all Palistinians. Free Palistine and free the world..

  33. Steve Inna Posted on March 3, 2019 at 2:53 pm

    Islam believes in Abraham, Moses, Noah, Jesus and Mohammed. Islam means submission to one god. The God. Free Palistine and free the world. Don't believe the Zionists who are aethiest trying to have us pray to man and money. God is great , human beings are weak and sinners. We must live as humans,under God with equal rights . All praise to God. We are mearly God's servant's. Live well live healthy live free. Most of all live your life with God.we are all Palistinians. Free Palistine and free the world.already

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  35. Aaron Goodman Posted on March 14, 2019 at 2:01 am

    For some reason this made me hungry for a ham and cheese sandwich.

  36. 2 Timothy 2:19 Posted on March 14, 2019 at 4:11 pm

    i dont get this, so right before his father was about to die, and according to the bible go to hell, he wouldnt tell him he needed Jesus before he died??????? because he didnt want to trouble him??

  37. renan castro Posted on March 18, 2019 at 9:49 pm

    God gave man a covenant originally to the Jewish people. The sacrifice of Yahshua has now become the blood of the covenant thus making an old covenant new. The covenant was written on tablets of stone plus he required Moses to write more in a scroll. Yahshua fulfilled the sacrificial requirements of the commands but the rest of the commands each person must obey. Unfortunately Christianity has evolved into lawlessness thus have become disciples of the man of lawlessness.

  38. So-And-So Posted on March 19, 2019 at 12:45 pm

    So, do you think his Father is in Heaven ?

  39. Denis Sutherland Posted on April 11, 2019 at 4:15 am

    John 5 : 47 " If you had believed in Moses, you would have believed in
    me, for he wrote about me. If you do not believe in his writings, how
    will you believe in my words

  40. parisrunway Posted on April 12, 2019 at 5:55 am

    Just wonderful

  41. Steve Novick Posted on May 24, 2019 at 12:08 pm

    it is disgusting to give somebody a new religion that doesn't even know about the religion that they are leaving. secular Jews don't really know who the g-d of Israel is and for you to take them out of their faith is like taking a baby away from its mother before it understands the mom and giving it to another mother to raise. that is a disgusting despicable practice!!!! shame on all of you

  42. nakedBison69 Posted on June 1, 2019 at 1:31 pm

    it is sad that Andrew Klavan can be so smart when it comes to politics, but so foolish when it comes to all that JESUS nonsense

  43. Don Duck Posted on June 9, 2019 at 12:13 pm

    About the great human…. My father did this, I did that….. Jesus can consider himself lucky that humans believe in him…

  44. CL Tracy Posted on June 15, 2019 at 10:29 pm

    What good does Jesus really do? After 45 years of misfortune and failure why should I even care?

  45. Denis Sutherland Posted on June 17, 2019 at 10:59 am

    Hebrews 2 " Both the One who makes men holy and those who were made holy are of the same family. So Jesus was not ashamed to call them brothers."

  46. Francis Drake Posted on July 7, 2019 at 11:15 am

    God bless you. Even within christianity there are many lost sheep. Searching trying to find their way back.

  47. Josue Rivera Posted on July 28, 2019 at 12:10 pm

    So he accepted God but not Christ. So he pretty much is still a Jew at Heart and not a Christian

  48. Der Posted on August 7, 2019 at 12:27 pm

    Never trust them see, devils hand signal 8:12

  49. Glory to God for all things Posted on August 20, 2019 at 6:53 pm

    He accepted God but not Christ ! 4:48 and flashing 666 at every opportunity. In 2 words satan's minion …