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Early Christian Schisms – The Woes of Constantine – Extra History – #2


Last time, we talked about a few
of the doctrinal disputes that tore the early Church apart. Even while they were being persecuted from the outside by the emperors in Rome. Disputes that, to them, seemed so important that they were often a bigger concern than getting thrown to the lions for their faith. Disputes that have been passed down to us for 2,000 years because they were so important to the early Church that they made their way into the Bible. But the outside pressures on Christianity are about to end. Constantine is busy repealing the laws against Christians, and in 313 CE, with the Edict of Milan, he restores essentially full rights to Christians within his empire. But this, itself, brings up another tricky problem: What do you do with those who had buckled under the pressure of the persecution? Those who had recanted
or turned their back on the faith when threatened with imprisonment or death? What do you do with the fact that so many of those who had been asked to turn over the scriptures
or to sacrifice to pagan gods were not merely converts to the religion,
but even priests? Can you let them take an equal footing
with those who had stood firm? Can you let those who had wavered in their faith administer the faith? And again, this question split the Church. In North Africa, a bishop named Caecilian
was elected the Bishop of Carthage But he was a traditor, or one of those who had handed over Christian scriptures when threatened with persecution,
and so his election was contested. In general, most of the Christian population was alright with accepting back into the fold those who had lapsed during a time of greatest trial. But, especially in North Africa, there was a group that was far less forgiving They viewed any sacraments given by such a bishop invalid and so soon elected their own bishop, Donatus, and refused to acknowledge the authority of Caecilian; the bishop recognized by the Church in Rome. As letters flew back and forth and sermons were given, Donatus decided to do an end run around those who were trying to unseat him and sent a letter to the Emperor directly,
asking him to weigh in. This was basically unheard of. The Church settled Church matters. The Emperor settled matters of State.
But here it was, and Constantine agreed to step in. Now, this sets a precedent
for hundreds of years of emperors, if not directly commanding the Church, at least having a great deal of sway over Church matters. It effectively broke down the barrier between
Church and State. But, at that time, no one knew that. And that’s certainly not what Donatus was thinking about. He was probably just trying to figure out how to get a fair shake when, right then, the only people who were allowed to judge his case were the very people he had essentially rebelled against. And the Emperor was willing to grant him that. Constantine designated that a hearing be set with the Bishop of Rome and three other bishops from Gaul that he would pick personally to make sure that they had no stake in the matter. Then he went off to do other imperial things. But when the Donatists’ case came up, the Bishop of Rome had ninja’d in an additional fifteen bishops that just so happened to agree with him. So, as you can probably guess, the trial didn’t go so well for Donatus and his Donatists. In fact, it went so poorly that,
not only was their case thrown out, but their supporters were branded as “heretical.”
So, of course, Donatus was pretty miffed,
and wrote the Emperor again, saying “Hey, look, there were about a dozen-and-a-quarter more guys in that committee than you appointed.” “Can we get, like, another, fairer hearing, maybe?” So Constantine, interested in bringing the church back together said, “Eh, sure.” “And this time, I’m just going to call a bunch of bishops from all over and have them hear you out, so that way it can’t be unfair.” And so that’s what he did. The Donatists, again, made their case, and, again, their case was rejected. This time, too, their views were branded as “heretical,” Largely, as I understand it, because it calls into question the sacrament of penance if there’s something — even something as momentous as turning
your back on the religion — that you can’t atone for. So the Donatists went back to Africa and sent Constantine a third letter. But, by this point, he had just about had it. He was actually hanging out at the trial this time,
and he’d felt like they’d gotten a fair shake. “What do you guys want?!” Meanwhile, conflicts between the two viewpoints had begun to escalate to violence in North Africa. And that was it. Constantine basically said,
“Don’t make me come down there,” and threatened to crush them all under his sandal. But then he got distracted by an itty-bitty civil war,
and had no time for this ridiculousness. So the Donatists essentially became a major splintered church in North Africa that would be a thorn in the side of the Empire
for years to come. And in the countryside, it would survive right through Justinian’s reconquest of North Africa centuries later. In fact, the Donatists would later harbor anti-Roman rebels, and some scholars have even argued that the disunity they cause weakened the province and essentially made it indefensible during the Arab conquests. So there’s one crack in the unity of the Empire and the Church that doesn’t ever go away. Now, it’s time to talk about the next even bigger one:
Arianism because, just as the Donatists question was flaring up in Carthage, another schism was beginning to spin out of control in Alexandria, where a bishop named Arius was preaching a brand-new understanding of the trinity, which means… I’m going to now try and define the Trinity on the Internet. Okay, so it’s time for disclaimer two:
We are not theologians. What I’m offering here on any of this is meant as a serviceable understanding for people interested in exploring the history that’s so intimately wrapped up in these things. But there is a lot more depth that can be gone into here. And the exact definition, well,
that could be debated for 2,000 years. And it has. So, that said, what is the the idea of “the Trinity?” It’s the concept that God is the Father, the Son,
and the Holy Ghost all rolled into one. Okay, so, what does that mean? Well, in the loosest form,
it’s the idea that God the Father is in Heaven, God the Spirit acts upon the world, and God the Son is the Christ who came down in human form to wash away humanity’s sins. Now, that part seems simple enough,
but there’s one more part to it. The part that everybody fought about. In Trinitarian belief, God is the Father,
the Son, and the Holy Spirit. But the Father is not the Son nor the Holy Spirit,
the Son is not the Father nor the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is neither the Father nor the Son. Confused yet? That’s okay; it’s one of the most difficult concepts in the entire Christian faith, and it’s something that has caused more debate and infighting than almost anything else. But hopefully that brings everybody up to speed enough so that we can talk about this radical new idea that Arius was preaching. What was it? Well, he was preaching that because God the Father begat God the Son while they were both still divine, God the Son was less than God the Father. They weren’t co-equal and co-substantial in the way that the Trinitarian formation laid out. Now, this may not seem like a big deal to you, and fair enough. Truth is, the local bishop at Alexandria seemed to see it the same way. At first, he didn’t do anything about this fractious doctrine. But soon, it became clear that this wasn’t just going away. The congregation was divided.
Arguments were breaking out in meetings of the faithful. It was time to step in. The bishop in Alexandria called a synod, and they decided that this Arian doctrine was heresy. Arius was stripped of his priesthood, and he and his followers were excommunicated from the church. But it was too little too late. This idea had already spread throughout the Eastern Empire. This became a grueling feud
that threatened to tear the Church in two. Now, Constantine was trying, for a number of reasons, to basically hand these Christians the keys to being the number one religion in the number one empire in the known world, and here they were squabbling worse than pagan cults. Constantine was irked by this, so he sent down a cleric that he trusted to settle the matter and armed him with a letter that ends thusly: “Open then for me henceforward,
by your unity of judgement, “that road to the region of the East which your dissensions have closed against me. “And permit me speedily to see yourselves and all other peoples rejoicing together. “And render due acknowledgment to God in the language of Praise and Thanksgiving for the restoration of general concord and liberty to all.” Basically he was saying, “Guys, for serious, just stop fighting. Let me get back to emperor stuff, please.” But it just so happened that the cleric he sent down was a strident Trinitarian. So, instead of finding a resolution and bringing everybody back together like Constantine had asked, the cleric decided that smashing the Arians in the face was a better idea, and he succeeded in basically causing a bunch of riots and not much else. So the cleric called a council to settle the matter once and for all. One where, at least theoretically, the Arians would be heard out. But the Emperor, probably with an exasperated sigh, wrote to him, knowing full well that this council organized of the local clergy and the clearly biased cleric that he had just send down was just another excuse to beat on the Arians, and suggested that they make it a truly universal council; inviting representatives from every district in the empire to come together and finally hammer out once and for all these squabbles that they’d been having. so that he could get back to emperoring, and spend some time founding a new capital in his own name. So join us next time as we dive into
the Council of Nicea; perhaps the most famous church council of all time. Will they solve the problems of the Christian Church? Will they end the schisms once and for all? Find out next time! Or just take a wild guess — you’ll probably be right.

Otis Rodgers

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100 COMMENTS

  1. Albert Ortega Posted on July 30, 2018 at 4:35 pm

    Christianity is pure poison!

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  2. Sum Arbor Posted on August 3, 2018 at 1:35 pm

    "I am going to try to define the Trinity on the internet." – +1 like and comment. As soon as I can get you money I will.

    Blink if you need me to save you.

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  3. Nathan M Posted on August 11, 2018 at 3:24 pm

    And to think, Christians today think that their Bible is the literal word of God… what a joke.

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  4. Scott Wallace Posted on August 15, 2018 at 2:42 pm

    Hmmm. If this is the case, how do I get my ticket to Heaven? In any case, kudos for coining a new verb: emperoring.

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  5. Self-replicating whatnot Posted on August 15, 2018 at 10:11 pm

    Don't you love it when people argue about things they can't settle once and for all because they are either inaccessible or simply made up? Here we are, like, 1500 years later and none of those schisms gone away, exept by the way of the group holding minority opinion going extinct.

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  6. Insanity Of Mine Posted on August 16, 2018 at 9:16 am

    With Mormons, we believe that Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit are three separate and distinct beings.

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  7. Noler the monster Posted on August 18, 2018 at 2:47 pm

    I must say you guys do great work. Please keep it up

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  8. EurydiceProject Posted on August 18, 2018 at 10:23 pm

    Hahahaha we all try

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  9. K1naku5ana3R1ka Posted on August 20, 2018 at 4:19 pm

    Also, I love how Constantine is presented like an overworked parent trying to deal with squabbling kids.

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  10. vice 1980s Posted on August 21, 2018 at 11:38 pm

    Constantine is like George Washington at this point

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  11. Aaron Vincent Posted on August 23, 2018 at 10:41 pm

    You could explain the holy trinity with the concept of government. The government is executive, legislative and judicial. But executive is neither legislative or judicial. Legislative is neither judicial or executive. And judicial is neither executive or legislative. All three branches have different strenghts and roles, but all three are the government.

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  12. Terrence Brann Posted on August 27, 2018 at 6:31 pm

    They should have just flushed the whole Christianity thing if people were going to fight over it.

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  13. John Cosminsky Posted on August 29, 2018 at 2:52 am

    From a Bible College graduate, that is actually a pretty good explanation of the trinity

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  14. June Bug π Posted on September 4, 2018 at 11:08 am

    Hi, I'm a Catholic! to explain the trinity, you first have to understand the nature of God which is 1 John 4:8, God is love.
    The definition of love in Catholicism (an act of free will for the sake of another)side note, also the definition of true love in any film ever# Frozen) is vastly different in western cultures( its some kind of feeling/sex/fill in the blank)
    as you stated in 5:33–5:52 the three parts of the trinity are three separate entities yet none of them alone are God. It is in the relationship between all of them/ love(acts of free will for the sake of one another) that they are God.
    IE the holy spirit blessing Jesus after baptism, Jesus honoring his father before the last supper, God the father giving Jesus life after death, etc. all of which was done by that entities free will for the sake of honoring or aiding in the others life.

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  15. Why Life Posted on September 8, 2018 at 1:33 am

    God the father is not the son of the holy spirt
    God the son is not the father or the holy spirt
    God the holy spirt is not the son or the father

    My reaction: ………..what???

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  16. Zachary Alexander Posted on September 9, 2018 at 1:57 pm

    I literally gasped when arianism was explained. Goodness no!!! Very wrong!

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  17. Scriptminer Posted on September 11, 2018 at 7:22 pm

    Really enjoying this series! Thank you 🙂

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  18. Blake Dean Posted on September 26, 2018 at 2:28 pm

    A way that I have found to help explain the trinity (at least to my fellow Americans) is to compare it to the way our government is set up. We have 3 branches that all do separate things but are all (supposedly) equal in power. All three make up the USA government just like all three of the trinity make up God but are different faces of God. I hope this was helpful for some people.

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  19. innocent inno Posted on October 5, 2018 at 7:00 pm

    you guys must be americans, only americans uses psi for pressure measurements, the rest of the world uses bar

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  20. Geordin Soucie Posted on October 9, 2018 at 3:48 pm

    Wow, the trinity makes much more sense when depicted in visual form.
    Also when approached from an ancient religious or pagan viewpoint that has a better understanding of how spirits and gods work.

    Now, as I am more familiar with various religions, I can see how defining the trinity is defining whether the beliefs are based on monotheism, polytheism or animism.

    Its interesting because not forcing an interpretation can allow all 3 groups to convert to some form of Christianity without dumping their personal beliefs.

    A monotheist wants to believe that their is one god and that power is centralized.

    A polytheist is more comfortable with multiple gods and may worship the 3 separately. But they can generally accept the idea that all the other deities are demi-gods who serve the one in charge.

    But a animist may believe in multiple types and levels of souls. And this seems to me to be the root of the Trinity.
    There is divinity, immortality and mortality- and the trinity allows each to be represented.

    Some cultures believe that there are a certain number of souls or types/part of souls. Usually, one piece disappears with the persons death. One or more goes on the the family and people left behind. And sometimes the last piece goes on the the underworld or is otherwise immortal somehow.

    And as I look at this I can see how religion expanded from here.
    Animists believe in spirits. Polytheists made some spirits into “gods”, and monotheists either put one god in charge, lowering the status of the others to demi-god or angel
    — or brought all of the gods back to a single source of spirit spread throughout the world.

    But hey, thats highly affected by my personal background so take what you will.

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  21. Big O Posted on October 10, 2018 at 4:42 pm

    Geez Christianity is way more complicated than I thought… thankfully I'm Jewish

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  22. Silvus Sol Posted on October 13, 2018 at 9:49 pm

    The Donatists sound like a bunch of ungrateful extremist asshats. Constantine went above and beyond for them to make sure they got a fair trial… and they lost fair and square. So what did they do, did they realize that maybe they were wrong and opted for a more reasonable stance?

    No, they got pissy and went against the Empire of the guy that just helped them, doubling down on their asshatery. Their poisonous attitude and mindset is precisely the kind of thing that holds humanity back, and that kind of thinking really doesn't belong in any religion that is supposed to help nurture the human soul.

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  23. MP Posted on October 28, 2018 at 4:24 pm

    A four-slice pie graph to show the Trinity? You're obviously quaternitarian heretics.

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  24. Epic Stimulus Posted on November 13, 2018 at 8:19 pm

    Illuminati is atheist

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  25. mohammad albaghdadi Posted on December 1, 2018 at 6:07 pm

    god the holy spirit is not the father or god the human.
    god the father is not the god the holy spirit or god the human.
    god the human is not god the holy spirit or god the father.
    But:

    THEY ARE ALL ONE.
    until now i don't know how but let just keep it that way.
    and also poor Constantine i don't know how much it took him to understand that.

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  26. Touchii Posted on December 4, 2018 at 12:12 am

    I bet Constantine wished he stayed pagan

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  27. Jacob Smith Posted on December 9, 2018 at 8:48 am

    Okay, so there are a few ways to explain the trinity better the four I am about to share are my personal favorites to use and usually the most understood except the last one which I came up with while writing this:

    1) Water has three forms that each have different names (Ice, Water, and Vapor) and all are unable to be all three at exactly the same time, what you see at water's triple point isn't all of the molecules being all three simultaneously, but they keep on morphing into the other. God is able to do the same thing but with a lot less chaos and whenever he wants.

    2) An egg is made of three parts; the yolk, the white and the shell. All three parts do something different, but still make the same egg.

    3) There are three main types of pots: Frying pans, cooking pots, crock pots aka simmer pots. All three are used differently, but are still types of pots

    (Warning, number four is the worst example of all of these)

    4) A spy has to use multiple personas each with their own story to do his job, God had to come down as Jesus to die on the cross, God the father takes care of all the stuff up in heaven like managing it and listening to prayers, and the holy spirit is God doing stuff on Earth. And that all three are equal.

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  28. Carsonian The Great Posted on December 14, 2018 at 3:05 am

    Arius was a priest not a Bishop

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  29. JoeyAwesome99 Posted on December 15, 2018 at 1:20 am

    5:47 As a well studied Christian I can say that this picture pretty much accurately summarizes the Trinity doctrine. Awesome!

    (I would explain the doctrine most simply like so:
    1. There is one God
    2. God is three co-existing, eternal "persons"
    3. each person is fully God*

    *i.e. Each person is not 1/3 of God as if God was 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 1 but more like God is 1*1*1=1 or that one person is less than another

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  30. Valentino Suak Posted on December 16, 2018 at 10:29 pm

    I remember hearing about what trying to understand the Holy Trinity completely is like… "it is like trying to hold all the water in the ocean into your head" or something similar. The human mind simply cannot comprehend the idea of the Holy Trinity in its entirety

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  31. AnimeShinigami13 Posted on December 18, 2018 at 10:13 pm

    I'm not exactly a religious person I'm mostly secular. I do not get this thing you call a Trinity, nor do I get most of these things that are ascribed to faith with the reasoning "that's just how we see it and its the only true path". no, I need a much more concrete answer to why things are the way they are that doesn't involve supernatural events or people slaughtering each other because they think it will make a dead man come out of the sky and make the world into paradise.

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  32. Christopher Ellis Posted on December 20, 2018 at 4:57 am

    Good work

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  33. matscrof scrofano Posted on January 4, 2019 at 12:36 am

    Not to be discerning but i just wanted to let you all know that the illuminate is an occultic symbol and really is not the most appropriate symbol to use in assessment with God or the trinty I mean I myself assume you were already aware of its origion as this is probably one of the most educated and engaging channels that I have seen but to those whom are unaware just letting you know

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  34. Muhamad Hamdy Posted on January 4, 2019 at 9:49 am

    Let's have a religion whose very fundamental concept is completely incomprehensible at best if not blatantly contradictory, sounds about right.

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  35. Brian Crane Posted on January 5, 2019 at 3:51 pm

    Oversimplification is the CARDINAL SIN of academics! Get more converts! IS NOT the goal of Christianity! You ascribe humanistic motives ($money) to all players in your "summaries".

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  36. poli Posted on January 6, 2019 at 12:41 pm

    I am really enjoying the series so far, and it is helping me immensely with a history test! One question: Didn't the people of Carthage actually elect Majorinus, who was then closely followed by Donatus?

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  37. Warwick The Kingmaker Posted on January 9, 2019 at 10:19 am

    in classical latin, Nicea is pronounced nekaia. In eclisiastical (rip spelling) latin it´s pronounced nechea (pronounced like long Es).
    Jut some trivia

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  38. Jacob Stewart Posted on January 12, 2019 at 2:47 am

    Why do they all have to agree? Why can't they just agree to disagree and live in peace anyway?

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  39. Ruth Richardson Posted on January 12, 2019 at 4:00 pm

    The Trinity is not a concept that is supposed to be understood, frustrating as that may be. It's a Mystery, something that, in the words of Josh Groban, "you just believe," xD

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  40. Patrick Allen Posted on January 14, 2019 at 1:30 am

    I think I've got the answer to the Holy Trinity; Same answer for when Quantum Mechanics, throw a few extra spacial dimensions at the problem. *SOLVED*

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  41. Suppertimepuss2 Posted on January 15, 2019 at 10:37 pm

    The Trinity sounds like Boolean algebra on steroids.

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  42. 2ctheocean Posted on January 25, 2019 at 6:45 pm

    I'm always really hesitant to click on this type of video, but you guys did a fantastic job with this whole series, and I'm surprised at how respectful the comment section has remained. What a nice breath of fresh air.

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  43. Kai Zhang Posted on January 27, 2019 at 7:46 pm

    I kind of got it….
    Don’t think of it as a math equation, think of it as states. For an example, water. Water is ice, gas, and a liquid. But ice isn’t a gas nor a liquid and so on.

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  44. Paul TheSkeptic Posted on January 27, 2019 at 9:48 pm

    All these people fighting and hating each other over the exact nature of their made up beliefs. I'm sorry but that seems really silly to me.

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  45. Foxtrot Mulder Posted on January 29, 2019 at 3:17 am

    The way I see it, Japan of all places (probably) accidentally solved the trinity problem with the Triforce. There are 3 parts to the Triforce, yes? Courage, Wisdom, and Power. They are all separate things on their own. However, they come together to form THE Triforce. Boom.

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  46. David White Posted on January 29, 2019 at 6:39 pm

    I learnt all about the trinity in school. I see it seems slightly confusing but how can it be completely confusing I mean seriously. Please not I am an atheist from Britain who did it in year 9, when I was 13 years old.

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  47. Astaroth Posted on February 1, 2019 at 2:41 pm

    I'll try to explain the Trinity in my own way.
    Yes I'm going to explain Trinity on a YouTube comment….
    And don't try to link it to Christianity alone cos the concept is everywhere. This idea is a general one.

    So basically these things are all symbolic. God isn't a bearded dude sitting up there judging people. He's the whole existence.

    The Son is the symbol of individual. The main problem with christanity is that it made christhood exclusive to Jesus. But Jesus himself said Kingdom of God is within us. So if the kingdom is within us all, shouldn't we ALL be able to become christs?

    And the holy spirit is the energy which in the East we call prana or qi. Its the energy that flows within everything. Basically its the force, got it?

    So I'll only explain the God and son. Imagine God being the sea. And the son, that is us as individuals, buckets full of sea water. So technically the son is God but the God is not the son.

    The son is God cos the water it is carrying is sea water, and the sea is God. But God isn't the son cos its much larger and unbound. The son is bound within the bucket. The bucket is the individual being and we ALL have the divine nature.
    To realise this divine nature within us all, that we're really part of something great, is the goal of all religions. Unfortunately almost all got politicised.

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  48. SURFWAV/TV Posted on February 7, 2019 at 4:13 pm

    Those North Africans are pretty pale especially considering they aren’t Alans or visigoths

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  49. sharp Posted on February 10, 2019 at 11:51 am

    Now I finally understand the javascript trinity.

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  50. Matthew Wright Posted on February 12, 2019 at 2:31 pm

    The Trinity in 30 seconds? Not a bad stab at the impossible, well done!

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  51. nero wulfee92 Posted on February 13, 2019 at 6:49 pm

    So, empire was broken over this crap? Really?

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  52. zaco 2121 Posted on February 13, 2019 at 6:56 pm

    2:09 One fundamental problem. The barrier between church and state existed because the Church was not "Roman" yet. The barrier between the temples and state for about 1000 years at the time was non-existent. The Romans didn't have public buildings so the temples had those roles. The Senate was meeting in the Temple of Castor and Pollux, the money was sent to the temple of Saturn…or Jupiter? I can't remember. Anyway, you get the picture. Also, because of this the clergy/priests and priestesses had a lot of power. If you wanted anything done…you needed the support of the c;ergy/ In facct the consuls were also high priests. Before that, the kings were high priests also. Constantine was trying to replace the old Roman clergy with the Christian one that would be loyal to him.

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  53. whathead07 Posted on February 20, 2019 at 11:18 pm

    Uploading Video "Christianity" :
    1% Finished

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  54. Justin Buergi Posted on February 24, 2019 at 3:31 pm

    Best explanation I’d heard of the trinity was from my religious teacher. A man can be a son, a father, and a grandfather and yet he’s different as a son then he is as a father.

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  55. my playlist of garbage Posted on February 27, 2019 at 2:08 am

    as an Orthodox Christian I appreciate this

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  56. 이동연 Posted on February 27, 2019 at 1:29 pm

    5:15 Why is the triangle with an eye doing here?

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  57. Ibaadrn 22 Posted on March 1, 2019 at 5:19 am

    This schism wouldn't have existed if they had understood just one thing.
    God is God, Christ is the son OF Mary, and Prophet of God. That's the only relationship Christ has with the God.

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  58. Sen Blake Posted on March 2, 2019 at 11:42 pm

    Alright so im not an authority on the matter of the trinity by any account, however as a Catholic I feel obligated to share my understanding of the trinity here.

    Its actually really simple each person in God is a separate individual person. So the Father is a separate person from the Son or Holy Spirit (and the same is true for whichever order you put The Names here).

    I think the confusion comes from a more pagan understanding of gods as a race, where if we look at God as a collective like a council or a family or a senate then it starts to make more sense. Separate, individual, persons that make up one God equally.

    I don't think that's the best explanation but it's (at least in my opinion) a bit better and less confusing than what you guys did above. And can I just say I am shocked at how much strife that has caused in the church. Seriously, even if I can't articulate it well I still feel like its an easy concept to understand.

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  59. Benjamin Vickery III Posted on March 3, 2019 at 10:03 am

    The part I love is that the symbol used for the trinity is DIRECTLY ripped off from Celtic Pagan beliefs

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  60. Rienk Kroese Posted on March 8, 2019 at 12:52 pm

    Easy.
    Father = the soul = Eternal, omnipresent, omniscient, all-in-all start and finish of all that was, is and ever will be, Life.
    Son = the body = Failing, dying, struggling, not-knowing or not-understanding, frail and small, container of Life.
    Holy Spirit = the mind/spirit = Thinking, pondering, feeling, understanding or able to understand, the presence, connection between the perfect soul and the desperate flesh. The unifier and Love.

    Like a human, but perfect = God.

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  61. moismyname Posted on March 11, 2019 at 4:08 am

    5:45 It's not a difficult concept, it's self-contradictory concept.

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  62. AnimeShinigami13 Posted on March 11, 2019 at 10:48 pm

    wild guess okay I'm guessiiiiinnggg uuuummm NO!

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  63. Nathan Miller Posted on March 12, 2019 at 2:36 am

    Isn't Christianity Polytheistic?

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  64. elie tondreau Posted on March 13, 2019 at 12:18 pm

    Just saying….the illuminati on god the fathers head is wrong this symbol is kind of pagan

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  65. Death Bone Posted on March 22, 2019 at 3:55 am

    Even as a cristian myself i still get confused of trinity

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  66. Ayane Harajuku Posted on March 25, 2019 at 6:12 pm

    6:17 A BIG DEAL?
    Its false teaching. It threatens Gods word. It threatens salvation!

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  67. Michael N Posted on March 28, 2019 at 4:40 am

    As a Roman Catholic, I am wrapped up in this when it comes to belief, and I must admit that they did a good job here. Not perfect, but more than enough to inform college students on the basics.

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  68. Nathan Coe Posted on April 1, 2019 at 2:35 pm

    Fun Fact: No.

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  69. nosuchthing8 Posted on April 5, 2019 at 10:02 pm

    Constatine must have wondered if he supported the right religion for the last half of his life

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  70. ur2c8 Posted on April 10, 2019 at 7:50 pm

    I have never understood the trinity. Makes no sense to me.

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  71. Waka waka Posted on April 18, 2019 at 4:10 am

    The Trinity is like water. It’s formless, shapeless. You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. Be water my friend.

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  72. Black_ Fog Posted on April 18, 2019 at 2:25 pm

    Why let an idea of a unified religion get in a way of a good excommunication ?

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  73. John T. Ralston Jr. Posted on April 19, 2019 at 2:42 pm

    I just remembered today is Good Friday . HAPPY EASTER!

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  74. LeonheartDelta Posted on April 20, 2019 at 4:13 pm

    The Donatists later became a problem for Islam too. After some struggle, they became Muslim, but then became the faction known as the Kharijites. Then pushed for "purity" in the faith, and believed disputes and succession should be decided by the sword. This would lead to hundreds of years of bloodshed, only stopping in the late 900s. You might have noticed that the Kharijites seem similar to the the modern Wahhabis and Salafis, and you would not be mistaken. They are very nearly the same thing. Meaning, the Donatist influence lives on to this day, but in another faith.

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  75. Reneelious Production Posted on April 22, 2019 at 10:17 am

    God the Father
    God the Son
    God the Holy Spirit
    There is no three God BUT there is a Triune God, 3 in 1. Which us humans are made of 3 in 1 Body, Soul and Spirit (the image of God 🙂

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  76. Matthew Dobbs Posted on April 26, 2019 at 12:26 pm

    'God breathed' hence the Holy Spirit…. good attempt at an explanation of something beyond explanation, well done. The Nicene Creed helps, but schisms are as common as people in the church, everyone has their own belief.

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  77. Christopher Stieg Posted on May 1, 2019 at 1:30 am

    Caecilian wasn't a traditor – he was consecrated by a traditor, which according to his opponents, made his election as bishop invalid.

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  78. duelgundam Posted on May 8, 2019 at 2:54 pm

    Constantine: alright, I need you to tell the other priests to get their shit together, and settle this Arian BS so I can go back to being emperor.

    Representative: KILL ALL the Arians!

    C: facepalm …God f*ing dammit.

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  79. Der Stoff aus dem Joghurt gemacht ist Posted on May 9, 2019 at 10:45 am

    YOUR WORK IS AWESOME GUYS

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  80. Bryce McKenzie Posted on May 14, 2019 at 5:07 am

    "For the love of God, will you all stop fighting!"
    The Letter, Basically
    Sorta

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  81. Biv Lab Posted on May 15, 2019 at 10:02 pm

    Anyone wanna play trinity with me. Father beats son, son beats spirit, spirit beats father

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  82. zeta ziggy Posted on May 17, 2019 at 2:40 pm

    The concept of the Trinity has been deficit to understand if you're of the mindset that God, Christ, and the Holly Spirit are one and the same. I however view them as three separate beings of one perpose.

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  83. casey gray Posted on May 30, 2019 at 4:57 pm

    Constantine is just so done with this shit

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  84. Der Carrot Posted on June 3, 2019 at 3:32 pm

    I didn’t know Christian history, could be so interesting and sensible at the same time. Good job

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  85. Chris Clements Posted on June 8, 2019 at 9:42 am

    But God is the Father, who is the Son, who is the Holy Ghost. All are equal & same, different titles for the same God.

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  86. Mike Moats Posted on July 8, 2019 at 12:49 pm

    Trinity doctrine originated in Babylon. Col. 1:15 Christ is firstborn of all creation. God's only begotten son . Borne from God.

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  87. Player Of Games 66 Posted on July 15, 2019 at 1:39 pm

    As a catholic I can confirm that the holy trinity is super confusing

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  88. gytux0258 Posted on July 23, 2019 at 7:00 am

    Its impossible to agree on something when you can make up whatever you want to your liking and deem the other guys made up story heretical. Who would have thought huh?

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  89. Yash Bajpai Posted on July 25, 2019 at 6:26 pm

    What the hell is walpole?

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  90. Munchkin of Pern Posted on August 9, 2019 at 9:00 am

    5:45 – “Confused yet?”

    Me, having already taken Confirmation Classes and discussed this at length with both my pastor and my peers: “Nope, I’m good!”

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  91. Vinny Johncox Posted on August 13, 2019 at 1:10 am

    8:07 I like how the "universal" council is depicted by the Roman sphere as opposed to the entire actual earth… Good attention to detail

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  92. Gage Gault Posted on September 5, 2019 at 2:58 am

    So if I’m understanding this correctly which I’m most likely not,God is The Father,The Son and the Holy Spirit,But The Father,The Son and the Holy Spirit are NOT any of the others?

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  93. Gregory Williams Posted on September 8, 2019 at 12:49 am

    Within the 1 Being that is God, there exists 3 coequal, coeternal persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. – James White, Forgotten Trinity

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  94. Gregory Williams Posted on September 8, 2019 at 12:51 am

    Rumor has it that Constantine's sister was a devout Christian, which is why he was lenient towards Christians.
    Also, he could see that paganism was on the decline, hence the persecution of Christianity by the conservative Romand.

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  95. hereticpariah 6/66 Posted on September 9, 2019 at 10:18 pm

    Is "Emperoring" a word?!? ….it works as used but… is it a word?

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  96. Imagination Disorder Posted on September 11, 2019 at 12:34 am

    I’m atheist but I think i can understand the trinity thing. God has three forms and they are not the same. Simple but complex.

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  97. jamcdonald120 Posted on September 13, 2019 at 7:18 am

    5:50 You can think of the trinity like multiple inheritance…. which people also cant seem to understand…..

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  98. Christian Lee Posted on October 4, 2019 at 4:32 am

    Constantine made me legal👍👍

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  99. David Jacobson Posted on October 4, 2019 at 6:50 am

    Is it just me or is this episode the same as #1….

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