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Faith and Hope Are Two Different Philosophical Mindsets | Sam Newlands


What’s interesting is that hope in particular
seems to have a kind of really low barrier for cognitive consistency. So as long as I don’t believe something
to be impossible, it seems to be an object that’s at least possible for me to hope
for. So I don’t think it’s impossible and I
don’t think it’s certain; it seems to be a candidate for hope. And insofar as then my desire for it kicks
in and it engages my agency in the right sorts of ways, it seems like I can actually hope
for it. So in the religious tradition there’s a
lot of work that’s been done on, of course, hope, and particularly the relation between
hope and other so-called theological virtues: faith and love. And one of the things we were interested in
has to do with the connection between faith and hope. So a lot of people think of faith as having
a kind of belief commitment that something is going to be certain, or that something
is going to be probable that maybe outstrips the evidence. And the interesting thing about hope is that
it seems to kind of float free from judgments about the evidence. So you can hope for something even though
you really don’t believe it’s likely to come about. And so one of the things we were interested
in with this project is, when it comes to the religious context, what sorts of religious
practices does mere hoping cultivate? So, for instance, suppose you were someone
who had religious beliefs but for various reasons have come to believe other things. Maybe you’ve become agnostic about the existence
of God, say. But nonetheless you still hope that God exists. And if you do hope that God exists, what sorts
of practices does that kind of hoping inspire? Is it possible to hopefully pray even though
you don’t actually believe that God exists? Can you still pray and hope? Can you participate in religious practices
and communities even though you don’t actually endorse the beliefs necessarily anymore? But nonetheless you still hope for an afterlife
or you hope for the unity of virtue and happiness in the end. So what sorts of distinctive beliefs and practices
can we get if we have hope without faith? With respect to the religious situation, as
long as I don’t believe that the existence of God, say, is logically impossible—and
few even adamant atheists would say it’s logically impossible that God exists or that
they’re absolutely certain that God doesn’t exist, just like most theists would not say
they’re absolutely certain that God exists—so here we are. We’re between absolute impossibility and
certainty. Well that’s the perfect space for hope to
operate in. And so, in a way, hope in the religious context
doesn’t necessarily involve assessment of the odds or the probability in the way that
maybe faith would. And so as long as you can think yes, there’s
a consistent narrative in some particular religious tradition, even if I’m not sure
that it’s true or I don’t even think it’s likely that it’s true. Nonetheless you might engage in the kind of
hope that say the Christian God exists, and in doing so that might actually motivate certain
kinds of religious practices. So I think it’s definitely the case that
we can do certain things that put us in the position to have robust, deep, abiding hopes. And so in that sense I do think hope can be
under the volitional control of an agent. It might not be the sort of thing that I can
just bootstrap my way into on a dime, and sort of on a snap or something like that,
just magically start hoping. But, can I do things that I know if I’m
in the right community context, I’m in the right sort of situation it will, in fact,
instill in me desires. It will, in fact, instill in me a sense of
agency and urgency over the object of my desires. And will help me see the possibility space
for those desires being realized. That’s exactly the kind of situation I actually
do have control over putting myself in. And insofar as I do that it does seem like
I can sort of indirectly put myself in a position to inculcate deep, rich, sustaining hopes.

Otis Rodgers

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41 COMMENTS

  1. Oregon I.T. Not IT Posted on June 22, 2017 at 5:01 pm

    you know you are right faith is blind trust ,hope is blind need for a better outcome.

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  2. Mario mario Posted on June 22, 2017 at 5:05 pm

    in religions. faith is literally belief in spite of or absent of evidence. hope is based on a conviction based on the actual evidence. if I hoped I would fly tomorrow that would be irrational. but I can say " I have faith I can fly" and you can justify anything with it.

    very simple: just have good evidence to back up your claims.

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  3. RandomSynr Posted on June 22, 2017 at 5:27 pm

    I think you may have not defined Faith correctly, especially in the religious sense.

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  4. RogerWazup007 Posted on June 22, 2017 at 5:54 pm

    People need to grow up, stop having "faith" in imaginary friends and mythical beings, and stop trying to defend religion as something intellectual or worth continuing. I'm sick of the mental acrobatics and word games that apologists use to defend their nonsense. I'm sick of 5-year-olds being told that if they don't believe, they're going to be tortured forever, and that any doubts they have are a supernatural boogeyman trying to enter their minds.

    And many theists DO claim to have absolute knowledge or certainty that their god exists. They tend to view doubt as sin or Satan and as a result push it out of their minds. There's the biblical belief that if a person denies God, then God too will deny them into Heaven. As a result of this and other things (such as peer pressure and wanting to be a positive representative of their religion, in some cases hiding or even denying that they have insecurities and negative emotions), I've met many theists who refuse to consider the possibility that God might not exist and claim to have 100% confidence and absolute knowledge.

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  5. Leland Somers Posted on June 22, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    His definition of faith as a system of beliefs is nonsense. Popular, but nonsense. The word hope in the NT has to do with trusting not believing. Trusting in the promise of Jesus to be with us always. Now how – as in a system of beliefs, but as in experience.

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  6. Grim Theorist Posted on June 22, 2017 at 6:45 pm

    2:35 I feel like most theists would say that they are absolutely certain that god exists; it's kinda a core part of their belief system.

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  7. GO9 Posted on June 22, 2017 at 7:01 pm

    im too stoned to hope

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  8. WhatSupp Posted on June 22, 2017 at 7:50 pm

    I'm pretty sure he's where they got the design for some of halo's helmets from…

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  9. Apple_Cider Posted on June 22, 2017 at 7:59 pm

    his features all speak about optimism and going forward. for example his large, forward pointing skull in Psychognomy indicates how future oriented, optimistic he is. you see that most notably with jack ma.

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  10. Cherubim 67 Posted on June 22, 2017 at 8:13 pm

    if this man needed a spiritual animal, it'd be beluga whale.

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  11. M. Öckthem Posted on June 22, 2017 at 9:24 pm

    the universe is infinite and eternal

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  12. Thor Jørgensen Posted on June 22, 2017 at 9:43 pm

    The elephant in the room when it comes to the difference between hope and faith… Does anybody hope for Hell?

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  13. bdf2718 Posted on June 22, 2017 at 9:44 pm

    Many more videos like this one and I'll unsub.

    Yes, you can get people thinking by spouting complete bullshit. But it's more likely that you'll annoy them. Especially when it's boring bullshit presented badly.

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  14. Rand Huso Posted on June 22, 2017 at 10:10 pm

    Have we solidified the definitions of these words? Hebrews chapter 11 gives the biblical definition of Faith as believing when there's no evidence, and even against evidence. So, yes, it is possible for someone to hold contradictory ideas. In fact, you'd probably get by saying all religious people do exactly this. I think of it as a mild self-induced schizophrenia.

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  15. 2583060 Posted on June 22, 2017 at 11:30 pm

    this dude is literally an egghead. I dont mean to be rude.

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  16. 2583060 Posted on June 22, 2017 at 11:31 pm

    i hope this guy has a large Hat collection.

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  17. Maggy Frog Posted on June 23, 2017 at 1:08 am

    uhm, am i the only one who read the title and thought, "of course faith and hope are two different things" … ?? i can't be the only one

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  18. Stefan B. Posted on June 23, 2017 at 1:32 am

    Faith and hope as two different mindsets: a explanatory video for non-Catholics.

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  19. Thomas H Posted on June 23, 2017 at 2:23 am

    Seriously though, you are an alien? That head shape is not biological. What is going on there?

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  20. Jason Bourne Posted on June 23, 2017 at 3:08 am

    is this guy from space?

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  21. Izzysmom Tattoos Posted on June 23, 2017 at 3:21 am

    I'm full of hope. Christianity not so much.

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  22. followtruth Posted on June 23, 2017 at 6:37 am

    now that is an egghead!

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  23. mystic Posted on June 23, 2017 at 7:07 am

    1 Corinthians 13:13
    So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

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  24. deathmetalguy666 Posted on June 23, 2017 at 9:32 am

    I have hope that time travel is real. I have faith I'll wake up tomorrow. There is the easiest way to say it.

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  25. Seaneiboy Posted on June 23, 2017 at 1:31 pm

    No crap. There is a reason why we have two different names for them. Of course they are different.. The Greeks despised hope. That's why it was in Pandora's box.. Hope leads to disappointment. Making a leap of faith gets you to where you want to go. Sitting back and hoping something will happen to you won't end up working in the end.

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  26. John Archer Posted on June 23, 2017 at 10:15 pm

    WHEN YOU TRUST IN CHRIST THE WORD FAITH REPLACES THE WORD HOPE

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  27. John Archer Posted on June 23, 2017 at 10:20 pm

    YEARS AGO I THOUGHT HOW NICE IT WOULD BE TO TRAVEL AROUND AUSTRALIA, THE LORD HAS JUST GIVEN THIS TO ME, I LEAVE NEXT WEDNESDAY, BY THE WAY AT NO COST, IT WAS GIVEN.

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  28. jared matthews Posted on June 23, 2017 at 10:31 pm

    Hope = Desire and Wish while Faith = Confidence and Trust

    Hope and Faith are experienced within the individual, and describes their relationship to ourselves, other people, immediate environment, or the world.

    More succinctly Change or Outcome. We can hope for certain outcome or change in ourselves, others, community, or the world.

    Hope is early in the chain of events, only preceded by one other.

    Hope is a precursor to Faith. First one must have Hope before one can have Faith. One must desire or wish for a certain outcome or change before they can trust or have confidence that it will happen. One must have faith to effect change or outcome.

    XXXX > Hope > Faith > Desired Change or Outcome.

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  29. John Archer Posted on June 23, 2017 at 10:37 pm

    HAVE YOU EVER NOTICED IN LIFE THAT THOSE THAT DONT UNDERSTAND JESUS CHRIST, THEIR LIVES ARE IN A MESS, IF NOT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THEY ARE GUNNA. I AM 79 YEARS OLD AND I HAVE SEEN THROUGH EXPERIENCE THAT THE RECOVERY RATE OF CHRISTIANS IS QUICK. THATS IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM. IF BY CHANCE YOU THINK THIS IS CRAP, LOOK AT DEVORCES, PROBLEMS WITH THE LAW.

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  30. Goose Posted on June 23, 2017 at 11:56 pm

    This guy's head is distracting me

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  31. Xäp 8 Posted on June 24, 2017 at 3:20 am

    I swear bruh once religion is mentioned in any of these vids, you all turn into hypocritical close-minded oppressors screaming that your opinion & BELIEFS validate the non-existence of an omniscient being …..Aye I still love ya though.

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  32. Almond Trees Posted on June 24, 2017 at 5:16 am

    the event of my winning the lotto jackpot is within the realm of my faith, hope and love!

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  33. frankem51 Posted on June 24, 2017 at 6:33 am

    For the religious person faith and hope are less known as just felt.

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  34. John Michael Strubhart Posted on June 24, 2017 at 10:22 am

    One can be hopeful and have that hope supported by evidence. I hope that people adopt more evidence based decision making. Faith is just wishful thinking or the belief in a claim without, and frequently in spite of, evidence. Hope is useful, because it promotes motivation. Faith is dangerous, because it promotes dogma.

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  35. FTWSkillDrain Posted on June 24, 2017 at 5:06 pm

    The religions you speak of are inconsistent. Even if your assessment is true it is equating hope to the god of the gaps falacy. The more we know the less grey area and the less hope. That perspective sounds depressing.

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  36. 216trixie Posted on June 26, 2017 at 2:13 am

    Faith, no matter how defined, is very, very stupid.

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  37. KXNGCAM330 Posted on June 17, 2019 at 9:22 pm

    Do you go to work hoping you get paid?
    Or do you have faith knowing that you will? You don't have to have faith in God to have faith. Faith is like currency If you have enough something will show for it

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  38. Chase C. Posted on October 9, 2019 at 2:02 am

    that's my prof!

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