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Once Saved, Always Saved?


Let’s go back to the phone lines – – by the way the quote of the day will be up on the web soon – Jeremy in Calgary, Alberta Canada – CHRB Hi Jeremy! Hi there Hank, thank you for having me I do want to bless you, for you and your
ministry and what you’re going through yourself. May God keep you – praise God. Thank you. My question is: if I have a friend who’s going through baptism but he’s actually been baptized and he again turns and walks with the world afterward would – – would a person consider him lost? I – I don’t know if I seen like
so much signs of the Holy Spirit, maybe some. Or maybe you can explain that to me please? Thank you. Well yeah I mean you have to you have to distinguish between
reality and appearance. The example that I’ve used continuously in the Bible Answer Man broadcast is Judas. If you were around in the first century, when Jesus walked the earth and you were an eyewitness to the inner circle of Christ, you would have said I want to be like Judas. I mean if there’s someone you wanted
to emulate it would have been Judas. He was performing miracles, he was driving out demons, he was proclaiming the works of Christ, and he was even entrusted as
the quote/unquote “treasurer” that’s overstating it a little bit but you know scripture says he kept the money bag, so, you know he’d say this is a guy with
great integrity, and wisdom, and and this has to be the real McCoy. And so you would watch from a distance and say “Wow. I want to be like Judas.” However, Jesus saw a far different reality. He saw that Judas was not there because
Judas loved Jesus, but rather, Judas was there because Judas loved what was on Jesus’s table. in other words Judas liked all that
Jesus brought, until of course, Jesus said “My kingdom is not of this world” And then Judas had a change of heart. until Jesus became unpopular with the
people, and with the leaders. Well, Judas had at least an apparent
change of heart, but Jesus saw what Judas was about from the beginning because
Jesus looks beyond externalities, Jesus sees the heart. So I think the first thing that we have to discuss whenever we talk about this subject is, the fact that we really don’t know who the real McCoy is. We see the exterior, the Lord
sees the heart. So that’s one part of the equation. The other thing I think that’s
very important for all of us to recognize is that true followers of
Jesus Christ are not those who made a transaction somewhere along the line, but
rather those who are involved in transformational relationship to the pillar and the ground of truth. Meaning that they are partaking of the graces by which they become by grace what God is by nature. So it isn’t transactional, it’s transformational in a relational sense within the community of faith. Now, there are people that start out with the Lord and then many fall away. Why? Because of the very difficult things that Jesus said. Remember when he said “Unless you eat my body and drink my blood you have no life in you”? Wow that was really hard
for people to take and many at that point decided “I’m out of here.” Particularly when you recognize the impact of the secular Koine Greek in
which these words were spoken. a little more impactful than even the translation
into modern English. and then the last thing I would say in this regard, and I
think this is very very important and that is: Look, if you are a genuine follower of
Christ, you can have confidence that He who began a good work in you is going to carry that work on to completion. Because scripture tells us precisely that in Philippians. Chapter 1. Or you can read the words of John in John chapter 5. “He who believes has eternal life.” Or, what Paul says in 1st Corinthians chapter 1,
that Christ will keep you strong to the end. Now, Christ works through means. You can walk away from those means, and if you do then you’re demonstrating – like Judas and others that could not take the words of our Lord – that, the faith within
you was not genuine faith. you were not genuinely turning with God’s help and demonstrating a change of heart, a change of mind, and a change of the will because those that do are “marked in Him with the seal – the promised Holy Spirit –
who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of
those who are God’s possession.” Now, I’m simply quoting scripture there. Which is to say that I have an absolute assurance that I will never walk away from the
Lord. I have the seal of the Holy Spirit, I know that I have ordered my life
around the divine, and I have fallen madly in love with our Lord and Savior
Jesus Christ – I’ve fallen madly in love with Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. And I’ve realized my all in finding my fellowship in the
Trinity. So ultimately, that love is only going to increase as my love for my wife
and kids continues to increase I’ve written about this in various places, but don’t think that this is a journey you can go alone. When you become a believer you’re part of a community of faith. You’re never a “lone ranger” Christian

Otis Rodgers

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92 COMMENTS

  1. Admiral Murat Posted on April 8, 2018 at 12:01 am

    I'd like Hank to Clearly explain the difference between Works of the Law and good works of faith.

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  2. alan crane Posted on April 8, 2018 at 2:57 pm

    These beating around the bush does not do anyone good. Instead, it would be better to be honest about your Orthodox faith. You can now start defending positions like: Why authority of Church tradition is greator than the authority of the Bible;
    Why faith in Jesus is not sufficient for salvation, why works are essential for salvation. Honesty will be appreciated.

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  3. Anthm2011 Posted on April 9, 2018 at 12:57 pm

    Be blessed Hank. A very poignant point on apparent faith concerning Judas.

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  4. sspann11 Posted on April 9, 2018 at 3:53 pm

    1 John 2:19 answers this argument pretty straightforward.

    "They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us."

    If you can leave the faith, you were never of it to begin with. I am sealed to the day of redemption. My sins, past, present AND future are paid for. I still ask forgiveness on a daily basis because I want to be in fellowship with God at all times, but that has to do with my quality of life on EARTH. That being said, what you do on this earth after you get saved will be brought under a microscope at the Judgement Seat of Christ and you will either have a greater reward or loss based on the fruit you produced. So, in essence, some will probably have bigger mansions than others.

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  5. David Maligo Posted on April 10, 2018 at 3:49 pm

    The test is coming. God help those who will have to go through it.

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  6. faithofourfathers Posted on April 11, 2018 at 2:59 pm

    At 6:16 Hank says, “I have an ABSOLUTE ASSURANCE that I will never walk away from the Lord.” Is this Orthodox teaching?? If so, please provide references that show this is the Orthodox position.

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  7. Admiral Murat Posted on April 12, 2018 at 6:25 pm

    Nothing in the Bible says sinful nature.

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  8. Ray Gabrelcik Posted on May 23, 2018 at 7:52 pm

    The problem with some theologians is that they have an intellectually preconceived, and even "legalistic" interpretation of scripture. The "warnings" about "slipping," or "falling away" are actually quite NUMEROUS in the Bible. Why would they BE there if it weren't POSSIBLE? The very first example of falling came in the GARDEN! Adam and Eve were created PURE and PERFECT in their basic moral-structure. All they KNEW was God and the garden…"pure, and "perfect." And yet–they fell. Granted, we know NOT whether or not that fall was "ultimate," but the point is, they were given a CHOICE, and they chose SIN! When we experience our "conversion" we are not suddenly MADE HOLY–not even CLOSE! In fact, we bring all that EXCESS BAGGAGE (sin) INTO our new life. Right? Right! Well, God does NOT do ALL the work FOR us! Yes, Christ died for our sins–but that doesn't take us "off the hook" when it comes to "continuing" to obey. Look at Lucifer and the angels. The Bible says we were created "a little LOWER" than they. That doesn't mean altitude-wise. They KNEW better. They didn't HAVE to debate evolution vs. creation, they KNEW the Father, and they KNEW He was Holy. They were ACCOUNTABLE.! The terms "falling-away," "backsliding," and "apostasy," would not BE in the BIBLE if they were not possible. And the CLEAR warnings that accompany them would not be there. Despite what Judas WOUND UP doing–he was ACCOUNTABLE!! How do I know? You do not SEE the things he saw, and walk away UNACCOUNTABLE. You do not PARTAKE in the MIRACLES he partook in, and NOT be accountable!! Furthermore HE was HANDPICKED, like the other 12 by Jesus HIMSELF. Do you "SEE" what I mean by "preconception?" Hank has said, concerning certain verses in Hebrews, etc., that Paul was only "referring to the Hebrews," or "as only referring to the Galations," or the Ephesians, etc. Excuse me, but he has said, "the Bible was written FOR US…" The fact of the matter is…it was also written TOO us, because His love for us is INTIMATE, and intimacy goes way beyond just FOR! But the POINT is, these "letters" were written for OUR admonition–they were written for Christians IN GENERAL!!. To say those warnings were only for THEM is, quite frankly very poor theology. I;m not against you Mr. Hannegraaff, just trying to let you know this is a terrible error in your method of interpretation.

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  9. Junior Lewing Koo Posted on July 24, 2018 at 8:08 pm

    Once Saved, Always Saved are a false or heretical teaching by Martin Luther. Also, Faith Alone, Christ Alone! Why? You've got to acknowledged the magnitude of our Church (Orthodox/Catholic/Greek Christianity).

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  10. Junior Lewing Koo Posted on July 30, 2018 at 1:40 am

    Where did the Christian (Catholic an Greek Orthodox Churches) institute the doctrine of One Saved, Always Saved?! It's a blatant heretical teaching created by the Protestantism an it's movement!

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  11. Charles Wesley Posted on August 10, 2018 at 6:15 pm

    When you call on Jesus you are unconditionally saved by Jesus . That is true because you may not live another minute . But as John 15 tells us Jesus is the vine in which you are grafted into , and God the Father is the Husbandman of that vine . God the Father prunes that vine of all suckers that doesn't bring forth fruit . If you abide in Christ and he in you , then you will bring forth fruit otherwise a patient God will lose faith in your sincerity and will break you out of that vine and cast you forth and men will cast you into the fire . So anyone who calls Jesus name is as saved as anyone else but a long suffering God will in time Judge that commitment to Jesus and reward as he finds .
    Next ; a saved person can not be taken from Jesus by Satan but that same person can walk away from salvation as will happen during the Tribulation where some will choose to take the Mark and maintain their worldly things . Thus the Great Falling Away . The falling away that will come in a very short period of time when induced by fear and hunger . The man who cast out Demons in Christ name was rejected because he turned from the faith .

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  12. Ray Gabrelcik Posted on August 10, 2018 at 9:57 pm

    Then why did Christ CHOOSE him IN THE FIRST PLACE? Furthermore, coming up with clever Biblical-Bromides is ONE thing–taking a CLOSE INTROSPECTIVE look at God's WORD–QUITE ANOTHER. The New T. says Judas was, "ONE OF THE TWELVE." Ok, is God PLAYING with our MINDS here? Or does He MEAN PRECISELY what He SAYS? John "one of the 12," Paul was "one of the 12," Peter was one of the 12." I could go ON, but I think you get the idea. Also, scripture CLEARLY states that Judas was AMONG THEM! So, once again, does God MINCE words–does He PLAY with our HEADS? I think NOT! So what does AMONG THEM really MEAN? Was Judas merely HANGING OUT with Jesus, and the Apostles to watch and see what marvelous miracles might happen NEXT? New T. scripture even makes it clear that Judas even TOOK PART in those very same MIRACLES!! Wow!!! So, how could he DO that? You HAVE to be IN THE SPIRIT to DO that!! Look what happened to the 7 sons of Sceva! Judas was ACCOUNTABLE–he KNEW who Christ WAS! He was ACCOUNTABLE, and THAT's where you guys DROP THE BALL!! It isn't about "ONCE SAVED–ALWAYS SAVED," it's about, does God consider them ACCOUNTABLE by what they KNEW, and were TAUGHT!! Besides, do you NOT KNOW, that a person can start out well, but LOSE their love. Look at Lucifer. Was he not PERFECT in ALL HIS WAYS? So…what HAPPENED? Why did God ALLOW…? Read Ps. 41: 9; and Ps. 55:12. If you understand ANYTHING about CONTEXT, you would KNOW that, One: These two verses are PROPHETIC revelations about Judas; and TWO: They CLEARLY portray Judas as a DEAR FRIEND of Christ. There was an OBVIOUS TENDERNESS in their relationship. It's all TOO EASY for you to say–in light of what Judas wound up doing–that he NEVER had ANY REAL SPIRITUAL relationship WITH Christ. THAT, my friend is HIGHLY PRESUMPTUOUS!! It is ALSO BAD theology.

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  13. Nat Wru Posted on August 22, 2018 at 8:43 pm

    but the bible says we have to hate our loved ones or we arent worthy of him.. and yea if you say that not literal well its easy to be a christian if every verse you dont like you can say is hyperbole

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  14. Kimberly Euteneier Posted on August 27, 2018 at 10:03 pm

    I don't believe this person's question was answered in a plain and simple way. It should have began with: First of all, baptism doesn't save you!
    So it doesn't matter if someone has been baptized, have they believed? Have they believed that they are a sinner in need of forgiveness and that Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection was sufficient to pay the penalty for their sins and to forgive them of their sins? That is all that is necessary for salvation. If someone can honestly answer "yes", then you are saved for eternity. Nobody will ever stop sinning. That is what God's grace is for! He knew that NOBODY would ever be saved by the law. That is why He sent Jesus. It is the work of JESUS that saves you, not your work! Lest anyone should boast! If you believe that you can lose your salvation, then you believe that you have done something to get it in the first place. Jesus paid it ALL. Don't be so self righteous that you think that something you do can save you. Only Jesus can save you, and once he does, he never leaves you or forsakes you! You can rest in the knowledge that you are saved for all eternity. You don't need to worry about your works, because it's not your works that save you, it's Jesus' finished work on the cross that saves!

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  15. Kim Harper Posted on September 9, 2018 at 12:39 pm

    John 3:3 Jesus said to get to Heaven a person must be "Born Again" first physically then spiritually. A person can not go back and be unborn physically. And if a person is born again they can not go back a be unborn spiritually. IMPOSSIBLE.

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  16. Greg Watson Posted on September 21, 2018 at 8:54 pm

    Not sure that I understand why Hank Hanegraaff is still teaching about Protestant theology. The EO church does not believe in OSAS. That's understood.

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  17. yen10tan Posted on September 27, 2018 at 4:15 pm

    What about Peter when he denied christ 3 times?

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  18. Kt Carroll Posted on September 28, 2018 at 12:14 am

    This teaching is sending people to hell just ask Jesus into your heart and you are saved forever go live how you want do what you want and you are saved by grace God understands. It’s a lie from the pits of hell or churches today in 2018. We make a choice to sin nobody pushes a button and makes us sin but if we do sin we have a advocate with the Father Jesus Christ but don’t think you can sin ask for forgiveness sin ask for forgiveness besetting sins will send you to hell your choice sin will have control over you or the Holy Ghost inside you will keep you holy and lead and guide you into all righteousness

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  19. kiki mac Posted on October 14, 2018 at 7:47 pm

    If Jesus told the disciples to baptize people why would a person who wants to please God not get baptized?

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  20. kiki mac Posted on October 14, 2018 at 7:52 pm

    Backsliding doesn’t mean you lost your salvation. It just means you’re going back but God will draw his people to repentance. He will discipline and correct those he loves. Suffering may be apart of your correction. If Jesus couldn’t keep you I don’t think he would have been sent to save you in the first place. We are sealed with the Holy Spirit.

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  21. Nikolozka Posted on October 15, 2018 at 7:19 pm

    Is this still a question? I think Matthew 7:22 & 7:23 answers this pretty clearly

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  22. Luke Padgett Posted on October 20, 2018 at 11:03 pm

    A proper Orthodox answer would start with the understanding that the premise is flawed. There is no "once saved" in the contingent sense. It's only in the dependent sense…dependent on the objective person and work of Lord Jesus Christ in the Holy Trinity. Those presuppositions are the only way to talk about "once" and "always."

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  23. steven vollmer Posted on October 21, 2018 at 11:26 am

    once we are saved we will always be saved no matter what dont let any one tell you different if we can be saved and sin than what was the reason for jesus dying he wouldnt of wasted his time period so dont let anyone fool you into all the garbage people will tell you if you sin you will end up in hell those people dont rightfully divided the word of God

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  24. gereral1 Posted on October 23, 2018 at 10:28 pm

    To many want the hands of the master and not the master himself. First love master(jesus) then his hands will provide. This is the danger of the prosperity gospel. Following jesus is hard and narrow. Do not be deceived. The cross is heavy, comes with perscution, are you willing to count the cost? No one preaches the cost…… but I do!

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  25. DEAN DALLEY Posted on October 27, 2018 at 10:02 pm

    Well then. There will be no one in heaven. Every believer sins!

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  26. TheSwatmachine Posted on October 31, 2018 at 7:24 pm

    Well, Hank, are YOU the real deal? I mean, 'orthodoxy' is not where you 'started out' so were you deceived for all those past decades? Were you 'genuine' then, or are you genuine now?

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  27. Him Bike Posted on November 3, 2018 at 6:44 pm

    Jesus said he who endures till the end shall be saved

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  28. bluedream428 Posted on November 4, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    The church does not teach Baptism is required for salvation. How about the thief on the cross? He was not baptized.

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  29. Harry Murphy Posted on November 28, 2018 at 5:00 pm

    Trust in Jesus, the Christ, for He alone is the way, the truth and the
    life (John 14:6) …Trust not in the teachings of men. Only Jesus, the
    perfect man, died for your sins. Believe on Him and trust in Him as your
    Lord and Savior and you will be saved. Read the Bible, ….start with
    the Gospel of John. You will be blessed IF you humble yourself before
    Him and trust in Him alone.

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  30. Yahusha is Savior Melchizedek King of Kings Posted on December 2, 2018 at 10:09 am

    saved means to be born again in spirit we can not undo that we are born again.

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  31. 3939steve Posted on December 12, 2018 at 7:27 pm

    Judas was not saved, the bible says he was a devil. Anyone ever seen a saved devil?

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  32. OSASISAREALLITY Posted on December 16, 2018 at 6:16 pm

    A typical lordshipsalvationist. He that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. Once a person believes on Jesus Christ Alone for everlasting life he is eternally secure forever, once saved always saved no matter what he may do oh don't do or believe in the future. I have absolute assurance because I simply believed in Jesus Christ for everlasting life. There's a difference between Eternal salvation and discipleship. There are many people Who quote on quote follow Christ but have never believed on him alone for everlasting life but have trusted in their good works. And there are people who have believed in Jesus Christ for everlasting life but are not following him. Justification and sanctification are two separate issues. There are consequences for a believer walking out of Fellowship, loss of joy loss of peace no power in prayer unanswered prayer consequences of the sin loss of reward at the judgement seat of Christ. but that believer is still saved no matter what. Believing in Jesus Christ for everlasting life it's simply being convinced or persuaded that he is able to keep that promise. Salvation alone is by grace alone through faith alone in Jesus Christ Alone.

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  33. promaster Posted on December 29, 2018 at 7:58 pm

    judas was never saved nor did he get saved….theres not one sin that a person can commit that was not covered by the blood in his veins which was gods blood……

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  34. Daniel Holt XXL Posted on January 19, 2019 at 3:07 am

    Salvation is triune, just as God is triune and just as His physical creation is triune. The triune God: 1. Father, 2. Son, 3. Holy Spirit. The triune creation: 1. Time (past, present, future); 2. Space (measured three dimensionally – height, width, depth); 3. Matter (three forms – solid, liquid, gas). The triune salvation: 1. Justification (a one time event), 2. Sanctification (ongoing), 3. Glorification (future event). When you fully understand this triune concept, it clears up a lot of misconceptions, particularly about the born again experience and that eternal life is a gift that begins at Justification and will not be revoked. However, the Sanctification process determines our rewards at the Judgement Seat of Christ. Many who are saved will receive no rewards as their works after Justification were “Wood, hay, and stubble” as Paul said in 1st Corinthians chapter 3. “Yet they shall be saved, so as by fire”. But cheer up, he also said in 2 Timothy “Forgetting those things which are behind, I press on for the high calling of God in Christ Jesus”.

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  35. RPG 808 Posted on January 21, 2019 at 4:21 pm

    This is untrue. There are just as many scriptures found in the Bible that say it is very possible for a born again, spirit filled Christian to fall away from Christ and not inherit the Kingdom of God. If you receive the Lord into your heart and you continue in any habitual sin without confessing and repenting on a regular basis, you will find yourself in hell. Can you lose your salvation? Yes. The following scriptures prove this highly debated subject. Heb 6:4, Exodus 32:32, Rev 3:5, Heb 10:26, Heb 10:30, Mark 3:28, Math 7:21-23, 1 Cor 9:27. There are MANY bible scholars that believe this is the case. Pull up some sermons and teaching on the subject. Derek Prince is a great reference, but do not trust me, trust in the Word. Repentance is key. We will face judgement before Christ and if there were no judgement we would not require repentance. Repent from what? Our sins. The blood of Jesus Christ continually cleanses us from all sin BUT this comes by confessing and repenting of sin. Our goal is to become like Jesus. Less of me and more of Jesus. You MUST confess your sins now or Jesus will confess them before all men at judgement. You are to ask for help from God to overcome these sins as you can do NOTHING apart from God. Hank did not answer this man's question and further states that HE is drawing closer to the Lord every day. That is all well and good for Hank, but we are not all like Hank. Pride comes before the fall and those that exalt themselves shall be humbled. Humble yourself before God and ask for His help in overcoming sin and repenting. Jesus WANTS you to come to him and rely on him for everything, that is the whole point of being a Christian! He is perfect and his goal for our lives is to be perfect. The Holy Spirit will convict you of your sin so you can come to Jesus for help in repentance. This strengthens our relationship with Christ. Of course, we will never be perfect in this life and that is why confession and repentance is so important. Do not make the mistake of believing "once saved, always saved" because that is a LIE that will put you in hell. STRIVE to be like Jesus. Confess sin and repent. You will notice a change, believe me. If you want to take a chance on your salvation it is a terrible risk as hell is for eternity.

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  36. John OBrien Posted on January 28, 2019 at 9:12 am

    Christ died for what? Our sins. That means what? It means we have been forgiven. If it didn't, then His death was in vain. You mean to tell me, Jesus died for our sins, but we still aren't forgiven, and well, He just left the building. I don't think so!

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  37. Peter Panayiotis Karanikas Posted on February 7, 2019 at 10:24 am

    This notion of 'once saved, always saved' is naive.
    And ludicrous.
    It is inconceivable that God became incarnate on Earth.
    Became the living breathing example of how we are to live our lives in accordance with His Wiil.
    Offered Himself up as a sacrifice for our sins.
    To give us a get out of hell free card.
    Gods Will is that sin is eradicated from the world.
    Why on Earth would He then create a situatiom where one can say a little prayer and then sin without consequence.
    Contrary to popular belief, salvation is not transactional.
    It is a lifelong journey of repentance.
    Of struggle.
    Of picking up your cross daily.
    Faith is not just a word.
    Faith does not exist in a vacuum.
    It is a lived experience.
    If the way you live your life is not a testimony of your faith, your faith is, with all due respects, not worth the paper it's written on.
    And as such, never existed.
    Likewise your salvation.
    God knows what's in your heart.
    He knows if you mean it.
    And He knows when you are merely mouthing the words of your 'I believe in Jesus, now I'm saved' prayer.
    This is so, so dangerous.
    That you would even consider it demonstrates a lack of true faith.
    Of inseincere motive.
    Of double mindedness
    Mosaic law says,
    'thou shalt not commit murder'
    But Christ says, (Mat 5 22)…
    that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. 
    Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca, (treat with contempt), is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.
    Notice that Christ does not distinguish between saved and unsaved.
    He says anyone.
    If you believe that once you are saved, your ticket to Heaven, economy class, is secure, you might want to go away and examine your understanding of salvation.
    And the contents of your heart.
    Humble yourself before God.
    And repent of your pride and naivety.
    Christ died for the sins of the world so that all may be saved.
    God dioes not however deprive us of our free will.
    If you want to dishonour Gods free gift of salvation by living a life of iniquity after you were saved, God loves you enough to honour your choice.
    That choice being hell.
    "Woe to you, Chorazin! woe to you, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes. But it shall be more tolerable in the judgment for Tyre and Sidon than for you." (Luke 10:8-14 RSV).
    There is no excuse when you know The Truth.
    And deny it.
    Glory to God.
    For all things.

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  38. 1thegreatskull Posted on February 15, 2019 at 9:38 pm

    I have read some of the comments posted for this video clip. It seems that some of you think that you can be saved and then be lost. Well, I have something to say about that:

    So, for those of you who think this

    In your view, Christ's death on the cross, and the words He uttered "it is finished —–paid in full (Tetelestai)" isn't really quite enough? We also need to be "obedient" in order to maintain our salvation? is that right? But isn't disobedience a sin? Did not Christ pay for ALL sins, or just for SOME sins?

    Does not the Bible tell us "To Him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
    to the only wise God our Savior, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen." (Jude 23-25)"

    People who are genuinely saved will have an overall, progressive life of obedience and sanctification. They will stumble, they will slip, they will fall into sin; and God will be right there to discipline them and bring them back. None of us are capable of saving ourselves, and none of us are capable of doing anything to maintain our salvation. As soon as you start placing requirements on people it becomes legalism, and with legalism you never can truly be certain if you are being obedient enough or doing enough to keep God happy. When a person truly FALLS AWAY that person was NEVER saved. There are many of these people all over youtube: Matt Dillahunty, Seth Andrews, Bart Erhman etc etc. Those people all claim to have once been saved and been true followers of Jesus and true Christians, but now they have "seen the light" and are attacking the Christian faith and denying that Jesus is the Christ. A person who is truly saved cannot and will not ever turn away into unbelief.

    It is heretical to propose that salvation comes through the person and work of Jesus Christ + what I do (heretical salvation formula: JESUS + ME AND MY EFFORTS = SALVATION) This is false and heretical, and it also leads to the horrible bondage of religious legalism.

    I have a younger brother who I thought was saved. For years we shared our faith, we went to church together and studied together. He was able to answer Bible questions correctly. If you would have asked me "is your brother a Christian" I would have told you "ABSOLUTELY." Not long ago my brother informed me that he "didn't believe in that Bible nonsense anymore" and that "God is evil." This was a huge disappointment to me, and it has really upset me. My brother has rejected Jesus Christ. He was never really saved. He only had an intellectual understanding of salvation and God, he did not have a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ.

    Lastly, if the Bible really teaches that a person can be saved and lost, then it also teaches that once they are lost they can never be saved again. Of course, the Bible DOES NOT teach that because our salvation does not hinge on our abilities. We are all too sinful to be able to contribute anything to our salvation. That is why the Spirit of God resides in us. 2-15-2019

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  39. 1thegreatskull Posted on March 2, 2019 at 6:42 am

    The best way to look at this issue is to frame it in the light of the person and work of Jesus Christ. Once you do this the answer is quite simple.

    We are saved by God's grace through faith in the person and work of Jesus Christ, and this not of ourselves. It is the gift of God; not of works, so no one can boast. To define it in any other way is to create a Performance Based Salvation and Faith.

    Jesus died for ALL sin. Those people who think that you can be saved and then be lost (if they fall away for example) do a disservice and a discredit to the Atonement. People who are genuinely saved are forgiven for ALL sins committed. Looking back to the cross, every sin that you or I can commit are all future sins. To suggest that a person can be saved and then somehow, through an act of disobedience, or stumbling, or doubt, or faithlessness, or being caught up and entangled for a time in the world, lose their salvation is to say "Jesus didn't quite do enough to appease God and to pay for ALL my sins. I need to help out Jesus by doing certain things and performing in a certain way———–ie: Jesus + My Efforts = Salvation." This is blasphemous, and it leads to the logical and inevitable dilemma: How can I ever be sure that I am doing enough; performing well enough; or trusting enough to be saved? Jesus died for ALL sins, even that of disobedience, doubt, and rebellious attitudes. All Christians still possess a sinful nature that is continually in conflict with their new nature. We are in conflict with God's Spirit all the time. A person who is truly saved cannot and will not ever reject God's salvation. It is IMPOSSIBLE.

    People who fall away were never saved in the first place. God has promised to carry out his plan to completion for each one of us. He is able to keep us from falling. There are lots of church-goers and religious people all over the world who are not saved. This is the great tragedy. Many eventually fall away as they were never regenerated; they were never born again. Some go on in a self-deluded state, going to church, going through the motions of religious practice, but never fully understanding the Gospel message and its application for their own lives.They don't understand salvation in an experiential way. They have mental knowledge but NOT saving knowledge. It is a great mystery.

    Oh, one other thing: God does discipline His children–sometimes very harshly, for their disobedience. This is to correct our behavior so that we don't become conformed to the ways of the world. It is the act of a loving Father. So don't think you'll be getting away with anything if you fall into rebellion or stray from God. He will go out and get you; He will search for you; and after he has broken your leg he will put you over His shoulder and carry you home.

    So the next time someone says to you "Jesus died for your sins—–but……" You'll know how to respond. 3-1-2019

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  40. The Rooted Word Posted on March 4, 2019 at 7:14 am

    It seems the enemy is working overtime on the Christian video commenting sections through people claiming to be Christians, but harassing and bullying and otherwise giving Christ a very bad name to those looking on. I recommend you click report next to anyone who is slandering someone else and choose Harassing or Bullying and then the dropdown … harassing me or the other option harassing someone else. If enough of us keep it up perhaps we can thin out some of this. More than that, PRAY! Pray that the Lord would drive out the enemy and we would be able to have decent Christian conversations, encouraging those who still believe and who hold fast to faith and obedience in the Lord.

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  41. 1thegreatskull Posted on March 4, 2019 at 10:38 am

    It seems the enemy truly is working overtime on this video commenting section through people claiming to have special abilities that go beyond other well educated theologians and teachers; throwing people into confusion about their salvation and then trying to silence those people who are calling them out by claiming harassment and slander because they are being challenged; breathing threats of wrath and judgement as though they are personally speaking for God; trying to censor those who disagree with them. It almost sounds like people I have heard on TBN

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  42. 1thegreatskull Posted on March 4, 2019 at 10:58 am

    TEST ALL THINGS AND HOLD FAST TO WHAT IS GOOD. (1 THESSALONIANS 5:21)

    Hank is right on target with his explanation. One of the first attacks on new Christians is to cause them to fear losing their salvation and placing a yoke of performance slavery on their necks.

    Watch out for people who do that.

    Thank you Hank for your excellent answer.

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  43. Natalia D Posted on March 4, 2019 at 8:24 pm

    Orthodoxy considers the question of “faith vs works” futile, because its premise is false – it has the wrong understanding of the meaning of the works and the Western view (both Catholic and Protestant) upon salvation lays in the abstract legal sphere, which makes it completely separated from both the Scripture and the reality of life.
    First of all, one obviously needs faith that Jesus Christ is Lord to be saved, that is even silly to discuss. Apostle Paul constantly calls his parish to do the GOOD WORKS by which in such cases understood
    1) ascetics (all kinds of self discipline and abstinence)
    2) alms giving and other acts of kindness.
    What use of someones faith if he is a bad and unrepentant person in his heart? Apostle James calls such faith the faith of the devil. The good works are the SIGN of true faith therefore they are inseparable from it and they were established by the Lord as necessary to salvation in the Gospel, because it is not enough not to sin – one also has to do something good as the parables of the five talents and five foolish virgins tell. The final Great Judgement describes our Lord making the final separation of humanity based on their good works: Matthew 25:34-36 “Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: for I was hungry, and ye gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink; I was a stranger, and ye took me in; naked, and ye clothed me; I was sick, and ye visited me; I was in prison, and ye came unto me. …. And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye done it unto me. …..
    [41] Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: i was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. …”
    In other words, salvation is not some legal act of forgiveness : I declare that I believe in Jesus Christ therefore I am saved…And these days they even went as far as to claim that they are saved once and forever.
    But not so fast. Salvation is a long process of growing in faith AND good works. If someone slips away from this path, they can easily perish.

    When apostle Paul is talking against salvation by the works, he is talking about the WORKS OF THE LAW – the numerous Old Testament religious rituals like washing hands, dietary guidelines, sacrificial guidelines, etc. All of these were installed by God to HELP humans to connect with Him, and there is absolutely nothing bad about them – Christ himself, his Mother and all the apostles all did them. The religious rituals are an indispensable part of salvation, they are the channels of Gods grace to support faith and good works. While most Old Testament rituals are gone, still one cannot be saved by faith alone and even if they do good works, but ignore the Church rituals of baptism, penance and the Holy Eucharist – all established by our Lord in the Gospel in order to cleanse us and connect us to Him (so is the meaning of the Communion). They supply grace without which we cannot do anything and are the necessary tools you need to climb the mountain of salvation. Luke 13:23-24
    “And one said unto him, Lord, are they few that are saved? And he said unto them, Strive to enter in by the narrow door: for many, I say unto you, shall seek to enter in, and shall not be able. …»
    What’s bad is when people start thinking that you can skip the hard work of good works, just do all the religious rituals – then you would be automatically saved. This is what happened to pharisees, they did all the rituals, but ignored the good works. They thought they were righteous because they followed the law to the T, but they were wicked in their hearts. Something like that happened to the Roman Catholics when they perverted the idea of the salvation as a reward for good works and started turning the faith into a business with their indulgences. The Protestants disagreed (rightfully so), but ended up setting the price tag even lower – salvation for faith only.
    However, that does not mean that you now can ignore the law, both moral and religious, it is still there and millions of millions of pious Christians have been living by it for two millennia. Not because good works and religious works are of some merit and not because they earn your salvation or justify you or make you righteous, but the ancient Christian (which is Orthodox) view is because they are simply a necessity.
    We you need to really listen to God to be saved and do what He ordered to do. One needs ALL of these three to be saved:
    1) faith (obviously!)
    2) moral law – good works (to establish the building of faith)
    3) religious law – Church sacraments (to support both faith and good works)

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  44. 1thegreatskull Posted on March 7, 2019 at 9:24 am

    Some people in this forum declare that they belong to the church that "wrote the Bible" but that is probably stretching things a bit.

    I don't believe it is possible for a true Christian to sin and not repent. God's Spirit ultimately leads to every believer to repentance

    The belief that a person must maintain their salvation through their own efforts in addition to the cross is what is blasphemous. A Christian will bear their cross and will also suffer because of their faith. It comes with the territory. It is probably not avoidable.

    The idea of "MY EFFORTS + THE CROSS" = SALVATION ultimately leads to a fear-based, performance based message of enslavement that ultimately can produce the same type of sin the Pharisees were guilty of—self righteous piety and thinking they were somehow better and more holy than others because of their "works" and their "deeds" and their "religiosity." It is this very practice of performance that can lead to pride because a person starts thinking about how great they are that they are performing all these holy deeds and behaviors like the Pharisees. Jesus rebuked them most severely.

    The fear of God IS NOT legalistic. The act of personal effort and performance in order to maintain your salvation IS. We cannot save ourselves.

    "Who then can be saved?" They asked. Jesus responded " With man this is impossible, but with God ALL THINGS are possible."

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  45. 1thegreatskull Posted on March 9, 2019 at 6:58 am

    " I give them ETERNAL LIFE and they will NEVER PERISH. My sheep hear my voice and they follow me. NO ONE can pluck them from my hand"

    John 10

    If eternal life can be lost as a result of our own sinfulness or God's lack of ability, then it is NOT eternal life.

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  46. Erich Honecker Posted on March 11, 2019 at 1:26 pm

    Hank, I miss you brother. I grew up on the Bible Answer Man in the 80's and 90's and you're as great to listen to as ever!

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  47. What Does Jesus Teach Posted on March 11, 2019 at 8:10 pm

    This response basically says, if you turn back, you were never really saved. Under that premise, a person will never actually know they are saved until the end. There is no assurace of being currently saved under that model.

    In addition, we do have a biblical example of some who were appointed directly by the Holy Spirit who then turned to false doctrine. Examine Acts 20:22-31.

    This is Paul saying goodbye to the elders at Ephesus. In verse 28, Paul says plainly that these overseers/elders were appointed by the Holy Spirit. I don't know that anyone would accuse these elders as being "never genuinely saved".

    Now, in verse 29, Paul warns them that as soon as he leaves, wolves will come in to spread false teachings.

    In verse 30, Paul says specifically that even among them (elders) some will join them in the deception.

    by this person's definition in the video, those who turned were "never saved", yet Paul says the Holy Spirit appointed them as elders. I don't know that anyone would accuse the Holy Spirit of placing a never saved person intentionally in the position of responsibility of an elder in a church congregation who was never saved. So, these once saved elders later turned to false doctrines, which means to abandon the faith. The person in this video's explanation would not hold true to this biblical example of saved people who turned away from the faith.

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  48. alizarin Posted on March 14, 2019 at 6:14 am

    the gospel comes with its own guarantee, if you do not know the salvation thats in christ then you're prob not in christ, people who are "unsure" and "doubt" the salvation thats in christ don't know christ, God gives you the assurance, the text comes alive and the verses dealing with all the promises and assurances mean something to the born from above believer, this is really only an issue for the unsaved people, the saved people believe God's promise, they are basing their salvation on christ and his finished work, and hank its not based on if we love him and us "falling in love with him" its based on christ loving the believer not us loving him, our love falls short moment by moment.

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  49. Slikk Posted on March 19, 2019 at 9:31 pm

    Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

    Rev 3:5 has a condition attached to it. The condition is (He that overcometh). Rev 3:5 is telling us plainly that we are to overcome. If we don't overcome our names can be blotted out of the book of life. Think about it, your name could not be blotted out of the book of life unless it was in there in the first place right? Therefor the logical conclusion would be that even if your name is in the book of life it can absolutely be blotted out. So (ONCE SAVED IS (NOT) ALWAYS SAVED).

    Mat 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all [men] for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

    If the fight is over once we except Jesus as Lord and savior, why is Mat 10 22 telling us that we must endure to the end? It's because the fight isn't over until we either die, or Jesus comes back. This is why we must (endure to the end). If the above verses are not enough for you, 1 Ti 4:1 says it all…

    1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

    Did you catch that? Ti 4:1 says that (SOME SHALL DEPART FROM THE FAITH). It doesn't get any clearer than this. A person could not depart from the faith it they didn't have it in the first place now could they? Due to a persons free will, they could except Jesus at one point in their lives and then reject him at another point in their lives. I personally know people who have done this. They were Christians at one point but have walked away from the faith by their own free will. So you could not say that these people were never really saved because 1Ti 4:1 says that
    these people depart from the faith, which implies that they were already saved at some point. Again… (ONCE SAVED IS (NOT) ALWAYS SAVED).

    Remember this… Our free will is never out of play. God will never force anyone to be with him if they don't want to be.

    So to sum up… We must (endure to the end) because (some shall depart from the faith) causing their names to be (blotted out of the book of life) just like the bible says.

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  50. Desmon Flonnory Posted on March 20, 2019 at 3:31 am

    Let's make this simple, and short.

    Mark 16:16. He that believe the and is baptized shall be saved.

    Acts 8:13  Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done. SIMON WAS SAVED.

    SIMON SINS, and is rebuked.

    Acts 8: 18  And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,
     19  Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.
     20  But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.
     21  Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God.
     22  Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.
     23  For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.
     24  Then answered Simon, and said, Pray ye to the Lord for me, that none of these things which ye have spoken come upon me

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  51. Stephen Fuller Posted on March 29, 2019 at 6:05 am

    2 Corinthians 5:17-21.Ephesians 1:18,2:8-9.Phillipians 1:6.1 John 3:9.🙏🔥

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  52. MLuff 1611 Posted on April 4, 2019 at 9:35 am

    Judas NEVER believed. Period. He was an example of Isaiah 6…
    “And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.”
    ‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭6:9-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬
    https://www.bible.com/1/isa.6.9-10.kjv

    Judas NEVER truly believed. Judas was never a true Christian. Therefore, he never lost his salvation. But, some believe since he was a disciple and chosen by Jesus, then he had to have been a true believer. However, we find that is not the case.

    It is not possible to lose salvation. Rest in this. That is Good News! Once you believe and put your faith and trust in Jesus Christ, when you repent (change or turn from what you used to believe) and believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ…the Bible says you are sealed by the Holy Spirit!
    “And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.”
    ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4:30‬ ‭KJV‬‬
    https://www.bible.com/1/eph.4.30.kjv

    “And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.”
    ‭‭John‬ ‭6:39-40‬ ‭KJV‬‬
    https://www.bible.com/1/jhn.6.39-40.kjv

    “But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one.”
    ‭‭John‬ ‭10:26-30‬ ‭KJV‬‬
    https://www.bible.com/1/jhn.10.26-30.kjv

    Stop trusting in your works to KEEP YOU SAVED. It was not works that saved you, but His Grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8-9) SO WHY DO YOU THINK YOUR WORKS IS GOING TO KEEP YOU SAVED??!!
    Quit mixing your salvation with discipleship! You are saved…but your discipleship might be a complete failure, you have no joy, no peace, no rest.
    Do those things you know to be faithful and pleasing to the Lord…and your peace and joy will return.

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  53. Mama Bear Posted on April 9, 2019 at 1:46 pm

    Your answers to callers questions which come from scripture bring me comfort

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  54. 1thegreatskull Posted on April 13, 2019 at 3:08 am

    Well articulated Mr. Hanegraaff! Thank you.

    Eternal Life is ETERNAL. It's NOT temporary.
    Jesus NEVER said "I give them eternal life, but later I might change my mind if they don't perform to my satisfaction or if they fail to be obedient enough"

    When we are Born Again we cannot become UNBORN

    Jesus answered and said to him, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God." (John 3:3)

    When God SEALS US WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT he is guaranteeing our membership in His family until the day of redemption (Ephesians 4:30)

    Therefore he is able to save completely (forever) those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them (Hebrews 7:25).

    I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. "My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand (John 10:28-29)

    "This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise them up on the last day (John 6:39)

    Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it FOREVER. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. (John 8: 34-36)

    To those who think we can be saved and then be lost: There is nothing we can do to maintain our salvation. We are all still inclined to sin and do evil. Even saved people still have a sin nature. Christ died for ALL SINS. That is the point. Salvation would be meaningless if Christ's death did not fully and completely resolve our sin issue. Sanctification is a lifelong process. Born again people will sin, they will stumble, they will stray for a time. But God is always there to discipline us and bring us back. He brings back those who belong to Him. HE keeps us from falling.

    People who claim that a person can be saved and lost and saved and lost are making a heretical claim because it frames salvation as a "merit based or performance based function." If the Scriptures truly teach that a person can be saved but then later be eternally lost, then it also teaches that they can never be saved again. But that is NOT what the Scriptures teach. So, if you have come to know Jesus as your Savior and you have placed your trust in Him, and God's Spirit has confirmed with your spirit that you belong to Him, then rest my brother, and be free to love and serve Him—not because you need to earn points but because you have gratitude for being saved.

    For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. (Ephesians 2:8-9)

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  55. 1thegreatskull Posted on April 14, 2019 at 6:45 am

    Hi Hank. I have listened to you on the BAM show for years, and one of the first books I purchased after being saved in 1983 was Walter Martin's Kingdom of the Cults. I hope all is going well with your condition and things are improving. 🙂

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  56. Ro Bus Posted on April 17, 2019 at 11:05 am

    What must I …do…..to be saved ?.. Never or ever sin……Ok, let me rephrase that, how can I be saved ?….Believe in your heart and accept the Risen Christ as the only way to have all your sins forgiven..Ok, but what if I sin again ?…If ? How about will and wilfully, don't believe me ?….Do you have room in your home for a homeless person ? If so, do you have someone in there ? No? Then which commandment are you purposely and willfully breaking ?….I don't believe anyone can earn or maintain their Salvation, I pray and ask Lord Jesus to somehow reveal the truth to anyone including myself

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  57. Chris Raynor Posted on April 17, 2019 at 9:47 pm

    Rev 22:19 is a sobering verse… Anyone who committed a gross violation against scriptures,was removed from the Book of Life…The Book of Life is the names of SAVED people,not unsaved . OSAS is not valid,and can damn someone to hell. Turn to Christ,do as He says.

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  58. steven vacco Posted on April 18, 2019 at 11:31 am

    The mystery of being saved is actually the greatest evil there is in all religions

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  59. Don't TakeMy WordForIt Posted on April 24, 2019 at 6:36 pm

    I believe on once saved always saved, but o believe the doctrine of salvation has been so butchered it's hard for some to get past what they've been taught by man to allow God to teach them. The born again Christian is so in awe by his sacrifice that they follow Him yes they stumble but God lifts them up again and they keep walking. That's sanctification. little children let no man deceive you he who practices righteousness is righteous even as he is righteous he who practices sin is of the devil. The false convert takes grace and uses it for wickedness.

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  60. Wild Bill Posted on April 27, 2019 at 8:38 pm

    don't believe that once saved always saved lie from the pit of Hell.

    Jesus gave a perfect example when he said it was ten virgins consecrated and set aside and only five we're allowed to be with him for eternity and that's because the other five chose not to pursue the spiritual intercourse that is required if you want to be with Jesus

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  61. Wild Bill Posted on April 27, 2019 at 8:41 pm

    The word of God says in 2nd Corinthians 5:17 If any man is in Christ he is a new creation well let's listen to me if you ask Jesus into you and you don't get into him you're not allowing that spiritual intercourse to take place where that marriage consummation takes place and all you are is a saved loser.

    Revelations 19:13 says and he was clothed with a robe dipped in Blood and his name is called the word of God so if you're not into Christ you're not into his word and if you're not into his word you're not a new creation and if you're not a new creation you're the same old scumbag you were you're just trying to act like you have something you don't have.

    John 1:1 says in the beginning was the word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.
    so if you aren't at the word you're not a new creation and you still have the same old condemnation laid against you because you're choosing to be lazy the five virgins that were left behind because they did not fill up their life with the power of the Holy Spirit the spirit being oil the oil that keeps the lamp burning God's word says the entrance of his word gives light and sorry for not putting God's word in airplane games you want salvation you want help you want newness but you're not willing to do anything and so they suffer the consequences of your laziness

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  62. Wild Bill Posted on April 27, 2019 at 8:44 pm

    I Crush everything that you say that once saved always saved because you are misleading people you're not telling them that you must get into the word of God and when you save someone you better hand them a Bible so that you've done your part and if you don't hand them a Bible immediately all you do is lead them to Jesus but you don't give him a resource to stay in Jesus and Stan created Being Human with a newness of life then you are a liar and that God is not with you and you all you are is a little misleading people you're a part of the falling away

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  63. Wild Bill Posted on April 28, 2019 at 5:04 am

    Jesus himself told the parable of 10 virgins can people who are already saved and set aside consecrated to be his bride but 5 chose to not be ready and they were left behind there's your answer stop being an idiot you either know God's word and you don't stop talking you're smack if you don't know God's word are misleading people to eternal hell give these other five the opportunity to know Christ Our Savior once saved always saved is a lie Jesus said it with his own mouth out of 10 and 5 were left behind

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  64. 1thegreatskull Posted on April 28, 2019 at 7:40 am

    Hank's response is "on point"

    To those who teach and believe that a person who has gone through a genuine transformation, being Born Again, sealed with God's Spirit until the day of redemption, and become members of God's family, and then, after all that, still be eternally condemned due to some failure on their part, should keep in mind that all of the best CULTS and false teachers disparage the cross of Christ and His work in exactly the same way. It's what they do. It's what makes them heretics. They too teach that salvation is performance and merit based and that Jesus is ONLY PART of the salvation equation and that we must perform a certain way in order to maintain our salvation. Think about that the next time you want to teach someone that they can be saved but also be lost afterward.

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  65. Gerardo Daniel Ercilla Posted on May 7, 2019 at 9:04 am

    I've been thinking about this issue for a long time. The truth is I don't know what to believe about it. There are scriptures that back up both views. I have seen verses that say that once you're saved you're always saved. But I have also seen verses that say that you can lose it. So I don't know what to believe.

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  66. Tony From Syracuse Posted on May 27, 2019 at 4:12 am

    The problem when you have a document that CLEARLY…takes BOTH sides, is that …IF… God is fair…he cant convict you when the bible does in fact take both sides. now I know that offends those people on both sides because to both sides, they are SO sure…that they are correct and its as obvious as 1+1+= 2. but there are in fact verses that imply that its based on faith alone…AND…. those that its faith plus not sinning anymore. so…if Gods own book takes both sides, God is in a dilemma when you stand before him. you could use his own book against him. it clearly takes both sides. just like you say…you have to read such and such verse in context…THE OTHER SIDE says the same thing as well. both have points. so….you have to decide if Jesus is the merciful type with his people, or if he is the punishing and hope its the first one.

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  67. JEROME BURNETT Posted on May 27, 2019 at 1:06 pm

    The question was after being baptized his friend went back to the world is he lost? Hank quoted scripture that when taught in their context do not answer the question once saved always saved. Lets get a bible answer for the bible question. Acts 8:12 Philip preached the kingdom of God and both men and women were baptized, 13 Simon believed and was baptized this lets us know that Simon was saved because Mark 16:16 says he that believes and is baptized shall be saved. So Simon's salvation is established by scripture. 17-19 Simon saw that through the laying on of hands by an apostle the Holy Ghost was given he wanted to buy that power with money. 20 Peter told him his money will perish with him because he tried to buy the gift of God. Now we know that Simon is saved so how can he perish if he is saved? Does perish mean he is lost? Yes it does. When we are saved and we sin we are lost until we repent. Repentance is turning away from sin and turning back to God. 22 Simon was told to repent of his wickedness. so that the thought of his heart could be forgiven. The key word here is forgiveness. What did Simon have to do for forgiveness? Repent. What if Simon does not repent? The text says he will perish. Can a save person perish? No. Simon is in his sin until he repents and if he does not repent he is lost. Read Acts 8: 5-24 it will give a full understanding. Hank did not give a truthful or biblical answer to the question. Listen to Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no affect to you whosoever of you are justified by the law, ye are fallen from grace. Paul is talking to saved Jews who were going back to the law of Moses. You can not fall from something you are not a part of. The text said ye are fallen from grace. they lost their salvation. They left Christ by going back to the law of Moses, you leave Christ when you go back to the sinful things of the world. How did Hank miss this?

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  68. JEROME BURNETT Posted on May 27, 2019 at 1:13 pm

    What he is is saying that anyone who is transformed and who loves Jesus will never fall and that is not true.

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  69. JrVargas13 Posted on May 28, 2019 at 9:31 pm

    We all love to talk about how much we believe in Jesus but don't actually want to walk the path of salvation (Romans 6:22).

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  70. The Bible Says Posted on June 5, 2019 at 1:05 pm

    "Once saved, always saved"? Here is Jesus' answer:
    "But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken;

    The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers." (Luke 12:45,46)

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  71. 1thegreatskull Posted on July 2, 2019 at 7:38 pm

    I still see people posting comments in this forum about losing salvation. To this I write: Indeed, we must endure to the end. And how can we do that? We endure to the end because God (Jesus) helps us to endure to the end. He is able to keep us from falling and to finish the work that He began in Christ and in us (Jude 24-25 & Philippians 1:6). When God saves a person that person is sealed with God's Spirit as a DEPOSIT GUARANTEEING our place until the Day of redemption (Ephesians 1:14 & 2 Corinthians 1:22). We cannot ignore these very clear texts. As for the texts and verses being cited in the various posts that are being used to promote the idea that saved people can be lost, we must always interpret scripture with scripture. Christ came to fulfill the Law—something that you and I cannot do. God opened up a more perfect and complete way to have a relationship with Him and to save us from ourselves and from our sinfulness. Through Christ He declares us righteous and justified even though we are wicked, dirty, and rebellious. He makes us sons and daughters in His family, and a son belongs to the family forever. So if we have been set free from sin then we will be free indeed and will belong to Him forever ( John 8:34-36), and Jesus is able to save completely ( FOREVER) those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them (Hebrew 7:25).

    A true Christian WILL endure to the end, but that does not mean that we don't or won't fall, or stray, or fail, or become entangled in the world from time to time. We still have that sin nature. But God is faithful and He will discipline us, sometimes severely, in order that we are NOT conformed to the wickedness of this world.

    Salvation is NOT performance or merit based. It is a GIFT. When we receive the gift, God does not take the gift away due to our failings or inabilities; rather, he empowers us and carries us through to the end. I wish that people would see this truth and stop promoting the heretical view that Jesus' work on the cross was not enough. JULY 2, 2019

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  72. If you see this username you must like my comment Posted on July 6, 2019 at 6:42 pm

    Hebrews 10:26 "If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,"

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  73. 1thegreatskull Posted on July 11, 2019 at 9:57 am

    ROMANS 11:29 "FOR GOD'S GIFTS AND HIS CALL ARE IRREVOCABLE" That pretty much sums it up. Saved people cannot be lost again.

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  74. 1thegreatskull Posted on July 28, 2019 at 10:27 am

    It is such a disappointment to me and it really irritates me that I continue to see people posting comments for this video insisting that saved people can be lost. For those who keep saying that, think through your theology for a moment and follow it out to its logical conclusion. If we can be saved and then be lost then the Cross of Christ was insufficient to deal with the sin problem. It is a great disrespect to Christ and to God to even suggest that in addition to the cross we must also perform X,Y, and Z to either earn our salvation or to maintain our salvation as though God changes His mind. GOD'S GIFTS AND HIS CALLING ARE IRREVOCABLE (ROMANS 11:29) All of he finest CULTS teach the insufficiency of Cross.

    I KEEP SEEING PEOPLE POSTING "YEAH BUT" COMMENTS. There is no "BUT" about it. We are saved by grace through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is a GIFT from God, NOT by works, so that NO ONE can boast PERIOD (Ephesians 2:8-9)

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  75. JEROME BURNETT Posted on August 1, 2019 at 4:08 pm

    Reality and appearance the reality he's sinning the appearance he's sinning he's lost it's that simple. God hates sin and you can't explain sin away like Hank is doing.

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  76. 1thegreatskull Posted on August 3, 2019 at 8:20 am

    Baptism doesn't save us

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  77. 1thegreatskull Posted on August 4, 2019 at 8:40 pm

    As I peruse all of the various comments related to this video clip I am struck by how many people are so incredibly righteous and thoroughly obedient! It's quite extraordinary actually; lots of sinless people and people who have somehow attained a level of righteousness and perfection that I thought not possible. They love to tell us all about their amazing obedience and righteousness and how GOD's Salvation Plan isn't quite enough; how Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection was good, but we still need to do "OUR PART." Some folks posting comments have even said that, God's SEAL (the promised Holy Spirit—2 Corinthians 1:22 , Ephesians 1:13) which HE has given to all saved people guaranteeing HIS promise and their inheritance, means nothing. That seems to me a blasphemous comment. Those same people also say that EPHESIANS 2:8-9 doesn't actually mean what it says. "It's a start" they say, but "we still need to perform at the proper level"

    GOD'S GRACE AND THE GOSPEL MESSAGE ARE SO INCREDIBLE AND SIMPLE THAT MANY PEOPLE STUMBLE RIGHT OVER IT AND CANNOT SEEM TO ACCEPT IT WITHOUT ALSO ADDING SOMETHING TO IT. THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT TRULY SAVED PEOPLE WILL ULTIMATELY EXHIBIT THE CHARACTERISTICS PRODUCED BY THE SPIRIT IN EVER INCREASING MEASURE, BUT NO SAVED PERSON CAN DO THIS IN THEIR OWN POWER

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  78. Bob Free Posted on August 10, 2019 at 10:59 pm

    There are no Sinless persons – We are ALL practical sinners. Baptism has nothing to do with actual Salvation as Jesus does that only! We are Saved by Grace(unmerited favor from God? thru the work of Jesus Christ and what HE did on the cross.the Focus is always on HIM,.Baptism cannot wash away any Sin, only Faith and trust in Jesus can do that.Baptism symbolizes our belief in Christ!!

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  79. Bob Free Posted on August 10, 2019 at 11:05 pm

    i do not Believe that a Person who comes to the Knowledge and Trust in Christ,can just walk away if he really Trusted in his committmant in the first place. That would be like a son or ,daughter abandoning thier Mother who they always loved ,and just walked away an said i never really loved my mother because she was not a good role model or something like that.

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  80. 1thegreatskull Posted on August 16, 2019 at 6:30 pm

    As I continue to periodically visit this link and read the comments being posted I am struck by those who continue to insist that God's Salvation is somehow PERFORMANCE & MERIT BASED, and that we must DO MANY THINGS IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN OUR SALVATION. Can it be that so many people are unwise and misled into thinking that THEY can do anything good, righteous, or pleasing to GOD? There is NO ONE righteous, not even one! Only GOD can save; only GOD can deliver; only GOD can rescue; only GOD can set a person free. Jesus' yoke is light. Apart from Christ we can do nothing. August 16, 2019

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  81. 1thegreatskull Posted on August 17, 2019 at 4:58 am

    A saved person will follow God, but that does not mean that they won't ever stray or backslide or get off course. If you think you are above doing such a thing then you are far more arrogant and self-righteous than I might have thought. What did Jesus say? "Apart from me you can do NOTHING." So what happens when one of GOD'S CHILDREN STRAYS or BACKSLIDES? Are they condemned? NO! They are disciplined by GOD HIMSELF and placed back on the right course so that they will NOT be conformed to the wicked ways of the world. There is NOTHING pleasant about GOD'S discipline. He will crush the believer into obedience or essentially force the person to reveal whether they are real or counterfeit—-also known as entering the crucible. It is during these times of testing, discipline, and trials that we are sanctified and our salvation & faith are shown to be genuine. The nonsense that some of you keep spewing about people in their OWN POWER "working hard" & "enduring to the end" & PERFORMING WELL smacks of self-righteousness.

    Salvation is given by God’s grace, the reformers called it sola gratia, grace alone (Ephesians 2:8-9). The Bible, in its full counsel, describes salvation as a free gift given by God's grace (Romans 6:23). There is no Biblical precedent for earning salvation. If there was a way to earn it then Christ need not die in our place. The impossibility of keeping the Law, or even the inability of doing anything at all to gain GOD'S favor is precisely why we need a savior (Romans 6:14-15). This does not mean that a believer can sin more so that grace more abounds, as Paul says, "may it never be!" We strive with the flesh, we fail, we weep over our sins, but none of these works cause our salvation. It is the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit in us, conforming us to Christ’s image which causes the believer to hate sin, and war against it. We do so gladly because of the love of the Father, in saving us while we were yet sinners! In short, works do not cause salvation, but salvation does cause the desire to work. August 16, 2019

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  82. Matthew 24:4 Posted on August 19, 2019 at 3:19 pm

    King Solomon turned away from the Lord and built altars and performed sacrifices to other gods. Other OT characters also turned from God.

    Anyone seeking evidence of Solomon’s faith at that time would not have seen any evidence and would have labelled him unsaved. Solomon is the wisest man that ever lived and he is definitely in heaven.

    Evidence of salvation is backdoor works based salvation, it’s heresy.

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  83. Tomcloud Posted on August 21, 2019 at 9:03 pm

    Can anyone explain to me revelation 3:1-6?

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  84. 1thegreatskull Posted on August 22, 2019 at 10:31 am

    I feel it is my duty as a defender of the Gospel to speak a word of caution to those who might read through these posts. There are some who are presenting an evil distortion of the Gospel message. They say that when a person receives Christ they are still NOT SAVED. They HAVE NOT been BORN AGAIN. They go on to say that after a person has received Christ, all of their PAST sins are forgiven; however, NONE of their FUTURE sins are forgiven. People must, they claim, confess every single sin they commit from the time they received Christ until the time they die. If they fail to confess even one sin, and endure to the end, they will be condemned. They also present a series of "TO DO" tasks that "should accompany" the lives of those who receive Christ, and these "works" are meritorious for our salvation but then deny they are promoting works-righteousness. They say "no one is saved until the very end" and that "no one can truly know whether they are saved until the very end." They adhere to a PERFORMANCE & MERIT BASED SALVATION FORMULA but then deny what it really is. One of the more outspoken proponents of this philosophy goes by the moniker "The Bible Says", but there are many more. They often quote texts out of context and exhibit a poor exegesis of the scriptures

    One of the very clear verses in all of Scripture is Ephesians 2:8-9 " For by grace you HAVE BEEN SAVED through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast." And there are so many more.

    1 Peter 1:22-25 "Having purified your souls by your obedience to the truth for a sincere brotherly love, love one another earnestly from a pure heart, since YOU HAVE BEEN BORN AGAIN, not of perishable seed but of imperishable, through the living and abiding word of God; for

    “All flesh is like grass

    and all its glory like the flower of grass.

    The grass withers,

    and the flower falls,

    but the word of the Lord remains forever.”

    And this word is the good news that was preached to you."

    1 John 2:12 "I am writing to you, dear children, because YOUR SINS HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN on account of his name.

    Friends, we are saved not because we deserve it, nor because we can earn it, but because of God's love and immeasurable GRACE. We can do nothign to MAINTAIN or salvation. A saved life will automatically produce results, but it is a lifelong process. Saved people are SEALED BY GOD'S SPIRIT until the day of redemption (Ephesians 1:13-14, 2 Corinthians 1:22). This is a seal of ownership guaranteeing the inheritance. In times of antiquity a SEAL on a document was of great value and importance. It guaranteed the promise contained within the document. Paul uses this metaphor when describing the believer's ultimate future and final destination. ὅ ἐστιν ἀρραβὼν τῆς κληρονομίας ἡμῶν, εἰς ἀπολύτρωσιν τῆ περιποιήσεως, εἰς ἔπαινον τῆς δόξης αὐτοῦ.

    Do not be misled. August 22, 2019

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  85. 1thegreatskull Posted on August 29, 2019 at 6:47 pm

    A word of caution to those who might read the posts for this video: There are some posting comments that make the claim of "SPECIAL INSIGHT" and "SPECIAL LINGUISTIC ABILITY AND UNDERSTANDING" which exceeds that of professional linguists, Translators, and well-learned Theologians. These people love to pull texts and verses out of context and redefine their meaning in the light of their supposed "SPECIAL INSIGHT" in order to present a false gospel which is really no gospel at all. Always be on-guard about such claims. A red flag should always pop up. When people post comments claiming that Salvation and Grace are really PERFORMANCE & MERIT based, and that a saved person must then do things to maintain their salvation they depart from everything the Scriptures teach regarding the human condition and human wickedness. When you hear someone say that receiving Christ doesn't actually save you then we have crossed into the realm of heresy and blasphemy. Such statements are built on a foundation of self-righteousness, arrogance, and deception. They are designed to mislead uninformed people and to cause confusion for those who are just escaping the corruption of the world through knowing Jesus the Christ.

    Don't be misled August 29, 2019

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  86. 1thegreatskull Posted on September 2, 2019 at 7:33 am

    The Apostle Paul has made it clear that NO ONE will ever be declared righteous in GOD'S sight by observing the Law. Legalism, in all of its forms, is an enemy of the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. Our salvation does not hinge on what we can do; on our performance; our merit; or on our maintaining salvation through our own efforts. Paul refers to those who would try to teach such things as DOGS (See Philippians chapter 3)

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  87. Timothy Gibney Posted on September 16, 2019 at 4:54 pm

    Churches of Christ say otherwise

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  88. The Bible Says Posted on September 19, 2019 at 1:24 pm

    Once saved, always saved? Can a Christian lose their salvation? TRICK QUESTION! You can not lose what you do not yet have!
    The apostles Paul and Peter gave the correct perspective on salvation: it is something we hope for, to be received in the future. Here's Paul:

    ⚫ "But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.

    For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ" (Paul, in 1 Thessalonians 5:8,9; Paul did not tell them they had been saved.)

    Here's Peter, saying "shall be" saved – in the future:

    ⚫ "But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they." (Acts 15: 11)

    In fact, Jesus tells us we must endure to the end to be saved:

    ⚫ "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved." (Matthew 10:22)

    We shall be saved – saved from ever perishing in death – when we actually receive the promised gift of eternal life at Jesus' return. Paul explained this in 1 Corinthians 15:42-54 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17. Short of receiving the gift of eternal life, we will surely perish in death, losing everything, very much unsaved!

    Salvation – eternal life – is a grace promised to us, to be received at Jesus' "revelation" or return:

    ⚫ "And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life" (1 John 2:25)

    ⚫ "Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;" (1 Peter 1:13)

    Justification and salvation are two different things, at different times

    In this mortal life we may enter justification; we will not be saved until we receive eternal life at Jesus' return. Paul wrote:

    ⚫ "Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him." (Paul, in Romans 5:9; there's another example of "shall be" saved.)

    "By his blood" a person may enter justification; "through him" that person shall be saved. "Through him" means through a relationship with Him. Remember Jesus' words about those who had preached in His name, and had "cast out devils," and had "done many wonderful works"? Jesus warned what he would say to them:

    ⚫ "And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." (Matthew 7:23)

    Not only must we know Him: we must continue to abide in Him:

    ⚫ "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned." (Jesus, in John 15:6)

    So, how do we enter justification? Through faith (Ephesians 2:8) that God exists and rewards (Hebrews 11:6) we may then choose to obey and "come to God" (Hebrews 11:6) on His terms: in repentance. For that we receive His promised mercy:

    ⚫ "And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent" (Acts 17:30)

    ⚫ "He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy." (Proverbs 28:13)

    So, what is the mercy promised in Proverbs 28:13? Our past sins will be blotted out:

    ⚫ "Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord" (Acts 3:19, NKJV)

    A believer – a person who through faith has come to God, confessing and forsaking sin – has been "purged from his old sins" (2 Peter 1:9). Believers have "remission of sins that are past" (Romans 3:25). They have redemption – by grace – from the death penalty they had earned for past sins:

    ⚫ "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord" (Romans 6:23).

    Believers have been "saved" (re: Ephesians 2:8) from hopelessness. They have not "endured to the end"; they have the "hope of salvation." They are no longer under condemnation, no longer under the death penalty they had earned as the "wages" of their past sins. That redemption was made possible "by his blood" as we saw in Romans 5:9: Jesus made His death available to cover our death penalty.

    The Gift of the Holy Spirit

    With past sins that separated us from God (Isaiah 59:1,2) erased, and no longer under condemnation, we enter justification, reconciled with God, no longer separated from God. Now we can begin a new life, "times of refreshing" in "the presence of the Lord" as we saw in Acts 3:19:

    ⚫ "Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord" (Acts 3:19, NKJV).

    And how are we in "the presence of the Lord"? Through the gift of the holy spirit, given to those who obey and come to God in repentance:

    ⚫ "And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him." (Acts 5:32)

    ⚫ "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts 2:38)

    Through the holy spirit Jesus guides us out of slavery to sin and into His righteousness, overcoming slavery to sin. This is how we are made ready to receive the gift of eternal life and to inherit the Kingdom of God. Creation is not finished: sons and daughters for the Father's eternal family are being created, right now, through Jesus. He is the potter, we are the clay:

    ⚫ "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent." (Jesus, in Revelation 3:19)

    A relationship with Him

    ⚫ " . . . yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby" (Hebrews 12:11).

    ⚫ "He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son." (Revelation 21:7)

    We can not make the journey along the "narrow way" (Matthew 7:14) that leads to life without His help. And that journey can neither begin nor continue without our repentance, abiding in Him.

    Outside of repentance, we receive no mercy and no redemption; we will surely perish in death, paying our own death penalty. And outside of repentance, we can not be made ready to receive the gift of eternal life. For those reasons Jesus warned:

    ⚫ " . . . except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." (Luke 13:5)

    Peter makes it clear: we either come to repentance, or we perish:

    ⚫ "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance" (2 Peter 3:9).

    Nothing about "faith alone" there! Jesus told His disciples to preach repentance and remission of sins, not "faith alone," not "faith + nothing = salvation":

    ⚫ "Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

    And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

    And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem." (Luke 24:45-47)

    All those warnings . . .

    We have free will, and it is possible for us to return to a life of sin, no longer in repentance and no longer abiding in Him. We've chosen sin, not repentance. In that case, we have "fallen away" from justification, no longer on the "narrow way" that leads to life. Once again we have sins that have not been blotted out. We've returned to condemnation.

    That's why the apostles gave all those warnings not to "fall away" and not to "fail of the grace of God." To "give diligence to make your calling and election sure" (2 Peter 1:10,11). To "fear" and to "take heed" to "continue in his goodness" or else be "cut off" (Romans 11:19-22).

    ⚫ "Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it." (Hebrews 4:1)

    Here is a list of similar verses:

    ⚫ 1 Corinthians 9:24-27 Paul understood he could possibly return to sin and be a "castaway"

    ⚫ 2 Peter 2:20-22 Even after knowing Him it is possible to return to a life of sin, and end up worse than before

    ⚫ Hebrews 10:26,27 If we return to a life of sin . . .

    ⚫ Hebrews 6:4-6 We can "fall away" even after receiving the holy spirit

    ⚫ Hebrews 12:14,15 We can "fail of the grace of God"

    ⚫ Revelation 3:5 and 22:19 Our names CAN be blotted out of the book of life

    ⚫ Hebrews 3:12-14 "if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end"

    ⚫ Colossians 1:21-23 "If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled"

    ⚫ Romans 8:13,14 "if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

    ⚫ Luke 12:45,46 Jesus warned what would happen to servants who returned to sin

    ⚫ John 15:6 Jesus warned what would happen to those who fail to abide in Him

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  89. 1thegreatskull Posted on September 26, 2019 at 9:05 am

    Be watchful and vigilant of those who visit this video, write comments, and misuse Scripture to promote a false Gospel of "PERFORMANCE & MERIT BASED SALVATION & SALVATION MAINTENANCE. These people love to write out a long list of scripture, misapply it, and say things like "there is NO ONE who is yet saved." These same false teachers also promote their "SALVATION BY MY EFFORT" philosophy while denying that they are saying it. These false teachers and heretics love to denigrate the Cross of Christ and God's Salvation plan and turn it into a "PERFORMANCE BASED FUNCTION" in which we must all work hard and endure to the end and confess every sin we commit, and if we fail to do any of these things we shall be condemned. This is NOT the Gospel of Christ. September 26, 2019

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  90. 1thegreatskull Posted on September 28, 2019 at 4:57 am

    Be watchful of those who emphasize "works" when presenting the Gospel. Always remember that true faith and real salvation will automatically produce works. A saved person need not try to work as it all comes naturally through the Spirit of GOD. Do not be deceived by those who post comments on this video citing a long "TO DO" list of things. Do not be burdened again by a yoke of slavery. Do not be enslaved to legalism. Legalism in ALL of its forms is an enemy of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. September 27, 2019

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  91. 1thegreatskull Posted on September 29, 2019 at 9:25 am

    Remember, a person who is genuinely saved receives a NEW NATURE. That new nature is in conflict with the sin nature. A genuinely saved person will also produce works and behaviors over time that show their conversion to be genuine. There is NO NEED to obsess over it. It will happen automatically by the Spirit of God. A good work can be studying your bible; praying; spending time with God; helping others etc. There is really no limit to the good things GOD does through us

    Watch out for those who present a Gospel that is sprinkled with "performance related duties" and "lists of things to do" and that obsesses over works and merit and criteria needing to be fulfilled. Such things are not representative of the TRUE GOSPEL.

    Remember, it is God who works in us to accomplish HIS good purposes (Philippians 2:13). We don't perform, God does. No human, in their own power, is capable of doing anything that pleases God.

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  92. 1thegreatskull Posted on October 5, 2019 at 7:37 pm

    Remember, God's grace reaches through the wall of our sin. If not for God (Father, Son, and Spirit) all of us would be condemned. Our sins are insurmountable. If not for Christ we would be eternally separated from God. No one is capable of doing anything to be saved or to maintain salvation. No one can come to Jesus unless the Father draws them (John 6:44). Do not be misled. There are some posting comments to this video that attempt to lead people into the belief that NO ONE has yet ever been saved or received eternal life; that NO ONE has ever been Born Again; that NONE of those things have ever happened to anyone and the only time in which anyone will finally "know for sure" will be at the Great White Throne Judgement. Such people ignore texts like 1 John 5:13; Ephesian 2:8-9; & 1 Peter 1:23. When faced with these texts the Legalists and False Teachers dismiss them, try to redefine them, insist that they have "SPECIAL INSIGHT" & "LINGUISTIC ABILITIES" that few others possess and that they are in the group of the VERY FEW on the narrow path who will be saved.

    "…….for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose (PHILIPPIANS 2:13). Obedience and all the other traits that accompany a genuine conversion will occur naturally by the Power of God and through the new nature we receive that is now inclined toward the things of GOD. Sanctification is a life-long process, and along the walk people can and do stray, fail, and backslide, but GOD IS FAITHFUL and will carry us through to the end and keep us from falling. Salvation is already a gift received. (PHILIPPIANS 1:6; JUDE 1:24; 1 PETER 1:23; 1 JOHN 5:13). Then here will come the FALSE TEACHERS to tell you that those aforementioned texts DON'T ACTUALLY MEAN WHAT THEY SAY, and with "THEIR HELP" they will teach you the TRUE MEANING.

    Be on guard for wolves in sheep's clothing.(MATTHEW 7:15)

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